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Conan Boardgame Kickstarter

Started by Skywalker, January 22, 2015, 09:01:16 PM

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crkrueger

Quote from: Spinachcat;856383The Pledge Manager is open!

If you missed the KS, you can jump in now.

https://monolith.pledgemanager.com/projects/conan/


QUESTION!!!!

Which of the Add-Ons and Exclusives do you think are the highest priority??

My guess is the Campaign/Artbook, but what else?

I'm getting all the exclusives, anything else I'll get later, even if it's a tad costlier later.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Doom

I'm "just" getting the main box (that alone is well past $100). I barely have time for board games and have tons of miniatures as it is...but I had to have the Conan game.
(taken during hurricane winds)

A nice education blog.

Spinachcat

I did the math on the Barbarian vs. King and the extra $45 works, especially if you like battles vs. the undead. The 31 minis + extra dice is great, but I agree not mandatory.

I went for the Art book because of the campaign rules + 19 scenarios and I waffled on the Wolves. I'm sure they will offer some alternate sculpt of wolves in the future, but Wolves are the fastest moving creatures and I like having fast attack options.

Doom

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Quote from: Spinachcat;857504I did the math on the Barbarian vs. King and the extra $45 works, especially if you like battles vs. the undead. The 31 minis + extra dice is great, but I agree not mandatory.

I went for the Art book because of the campaign rules + 19 scenarios and I waffled on the Wolves. I'm sure they will offer some alternate sculpt of wolves in the future, but Wolves are the fastest moving creatures and I like having fast attack options.

Well, hellfire, if you did the math I reckon I can check your work and see if another $45 is in order.

(edit: derp, turns out I already did the math and King pledged)
(taken during hurricane winds)

A nice education blog.

Spinachcat

Here's the math for anyone on the fence!!!

I was originally thinking Barbarian Pledge at $90 because you get so much with the core box + the crazy amount of free bonus from the stretch goals, but $45 for 31 minis (25 undead) is less than $1.50 per mini and allows for large hordes of undead battles.

I've been following some discussions about scenario design and it appears that 5 foes per PC in an adventure isn't unusual.

But the real math swings comes with Thog (big demon) and the 4 heroes (including King Conan). If Monolith is selling 2 heroes + cards now for $20 (the Conan guest artist boxes, aka Brom box) and selling the Demon of the Earth for $10, then the King pledge exclusive is worth $50 you include the undead minions.

The 10 wolves are $15 and 5 Black Guard are $10 so its realistic to assume the 15 skeletons would sell for $20 and 10 mummies for $15, so the undead are worth $35.

And the cherry on top is Monolith is selling dice for $10

So...
4 Heroes = $40
1 Demon = $10
10 Mummies = $15
15 Skeletons = $20
Extra Dice = $10

TOTAL = $95 retail vs $45 for the King Pledge

crkrueger

For me the boardgame is icing, I'm in it for the Hyborian minis.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Spinachcat

No question. Especially if you are going to play the new Conan RPG.

crkrueger

Quote from: Spinachcat;857565No question. Especially if you are going to play the new Conan RPG.

Way too much mechanically enforced non-Roleplaying in that "RPG" for me, despite the cool team of content designers they have, but there's always RQ6.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

3rik

Well, now that the boardgame is apparently reaching Kickstarter backers, the SJWs are already having a go at it. The article also mentions Modiphius' KS for their Conan RPG:

Link: Former Conan Rep Calls Out Hit Board Game's Depiction Of Women | Kotaku Australia
It\'s not Its

"It\'s said that governments are chiefed by the double tongues" - Ten Bears (The Outlaw Josey Wales)

@RPGbericht

Motorskills

Quote from: 3rik;931974Well, now that the boardgame is apparently reaching Kickstarter backers, the SJWs are already having a go at it. The article also mentions Modiphius' KS for their Conan RPG:

Link: Former Conan Rep Calls Out Hit Board Game's Depiction Of Women | Kotaku Australia

Well you are over-reaching here, this is not the latest battleground in the culture wars.

For a start, this was a major issue during the KS campaign itself, and the discussion was actually pretty constructive overall. The designers made a big deal of trying to be true to Howard's designs, but obviously understood that was problematic (see also Lovecraft).

That said, I was surprised to see (topless) nudity in the Monolith artwork (in the gamebook IIRC), even from a French company. I thought the Belit figure was a reasonable compromise, and expected to see that kind of approach repeated elsewhere.

As one of the commenters noted, you don't have to erase this stuff from the 1930s, but you don't have to celebrate it either.
"Gosh it's so interesting (profoundly unsurprising) how men with all these opinions about women's differentiation between sexual misconduct, assault and rape reveal themselves to be utterly tone deaf and as a result, systemically part of the problem." - Minnie Driver, December 2017

" Using the phrase "virtue signalling" is \'I\'m a sociopath\' signalling ". J Wright, July 2018

daniel_ream

Not expecting a Conan game to about atavistic alpha male physical domination of one's goals is like expecting a family-com not to have a childish, irresponsible father being 'corrected' by his noble, patronizing wife.

The people who kickstarted the game knew exactly what they were getting, and they threw nearly 200 times more money at it than Monarch.

When asked to vote with their wallets, people routinely reject the hectoring of virtue-signalling SJWs (cf. also Chick-Fil-A)
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~ Opaopajr

Motorskills

Quote from: daniel_ream;932032The people who kickstarted the game knew exactly what they were getting,

I Kickstarted it, but I definitely don't recall (topless) female nudity in the campaign. Am I wrong?
"Gosh it's so interesting (profoundly unsurprising) how men with all these opinions about women's differentiation between sexual misconduct, assault and rape reveal themselves to be utterly tone deaf and as a result, systemically part of the problem." - Minnie Driver, December 2017

" Using the phrase "virtue signalling" is \'I\'m a sociopath\' signalling ". J Wright, July 2018

Spinachcat

It's A cup side boob. There's more nudity on network TV and most museums.

Here's the Kotaku moron on parade at her best:

QuoteTo me, she looks like his prize, a reward for his violence with which he can do whatever he wishes - including grab her by the crotch and rape her before she's regained consciousness." She described the scene as "the scene of or before a rape. And you, my friend, are going to take on the role of the rapist."

Of course, its idiot bullshit and her article is full of lies (How shocking! Game journalism full of shit?). Belit isn't the only playable female. There are several in the KS. Belit isn't some weakling designed to serve the male characters. She's a badass pirate queen and a great choice for players who like tactical characters. Wanna play a female hack & slasher? Great, pick the Red Sonja character instead.

But as I've said before, we are going to see MUCH MORE crazy out of SJWs as they die out.

And that's all good because their tears are delicious.

Thornhammer

Quote from: Spinachcat;932069Wanna play a female hack & slasher? Great, pick the Red Sonja character instead.

Whoa, whoa, whoa there!  That's not Red Sonja, they don't have the licensing!

It's...uh...

Rita Rojo.  A completely new and original character.  Yeah, that's the ticket!

daniel_ream

Quote from: Motorskills;932057Am I wrong?

In so, so many ways.
D&D is becoming Self-Referential.  It is no longer Setting Referential, where it takes references outside of itself. It is becoming like Ouroboros in its self-gleaning for tropes, no longer attached, let alone needing outside context.
~ Opaopajr