Quote from: pawsplay;352303Then why are their rules for it? If the rules say my character may suddenly murder a teammate or commit rape, how am I supposed to interpret that?

You mean those unofficial rules you quoted ?

Edit: As to how you interpret them, with some thought and consideration for your fellow players, I hope.

Regards,
David R

Pawsplay, don't you think it is significant that you are one of the few people still advocating the merits of a game based around gang rape? Does Skarka's Law ring a bell?

Quote from: pawsplay;352303Then why are their rules for it? If the rules say my character may suddenly murder a teammate or commit rape, how am I supposed to interpret that?

The rules don't say that.  You are simply lying.  What the rules do say is 'any manner of perversion' (or words to that effect) and very specifically avoid mentioning sexual perversion.  So, ripping the arms off an enemy, playing puppet with their head, shitting on someone's face, whatever.  There is no mechanic that says 'your werewolf must rape someone'.

You don't have the rulebook, you don't know what it says, and your entire understanding of this matter comes from an unofficial Wikia page and your previous group's behaviour.  Your continued use of this non-evidence is only to your detriment.

Quote from: jeff37923;352317Pawsplay, don't you think it is significant that you are one of the few people still advocating the merits of a game based around gang rape? Does Skarka's Law ring a bell?

C'mon, dude, he is all edgy-cool and post-modern.  Your antiquated 'morality' is meaningless to Hipster Men in Black.

Quote from: StormBringer;352324C'mon, dude, he is all edgy-cool and post-modern.  Your antiquated 'morality' is meaningless to Hipster Men in Black.

Then tell the dipshit to GET OFF MY LAWN!!



I think its cute the way he keeps making up crap to try and prove you wrong. He obviously is hungering for the approval of adults.

Quote from: pawsplay;352306Ok, so you want to call every orthodox Catholic in the world and most Baptists nutters,

Demonic possession is not part of modern Catholic or Baptist doctrine. Thus, modern Catholics or Baptists are not offended by stories of demonic possession.

Demonic possession causing lycanthropy has never been a part of Catholic or Baptist doctrine.

Conversations about real world issues always go much more smoothly if nobody just plain makes shit up. Save the creativity for the game table.

Stop being stupid. That shit only works on message boards where the moderaors themselves are stupid, or where nobody is allowed to call bullshit because it creates an emotionally unsafe environment. So it doesn't work here.

Quote from: pawsplay;352303Then why are their rules for it? If the rules say my character may suddenly murder a teammate or commit rape, how am I supposed to interpret that?

That is weakest fucking argument possible.
Whatever leg you had to stand on just got amputated.

Its about Werewolves!!

Fictional damn creatures!!

 "G*ng R*pe" is a piece of excrement that should never be referred to as a game.  It is an exercise in cluelessness on the part of its designer/writer.

There are certain things that are generally known as repugnant. Rational, sane stable people do create such products as the thing that generated this thread's discussion.


- Ed C.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;352339Demonic possession is not part of modern Catholic or Baptist doctrine. Thus, modern Catholics or Baptists are not offended by stories of demonic possession.

Sorry, demonic possession is doctrinal.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12315a.htm

and Biblical

Luke 8

26 And they sailed to the country of the Gerasens, which is over against Galilee. 27 And when he had come forth to the land, there met him a certain man who had a devil now a very long time. And he wore no clothes: neither did he abide in a house, but in the sepulchres. 28 And when he saw Jesus, he fell down before him. And crying out with a loud voice, he said: What have I to do with you, Jesus, Son of the most high God? I beseech you, do not torment me. 29 For he commanded the unclean spirit to go out of the man. For many times it seized him: and he was bound with chains and kept in fetters: and breaking the bonds, he was driven by the devil into the deserts.

30 And Jesus asked him, saying: What is your name? But he said: Legion. Because many devils were entered into him. 31 And they besought him that he would not command them to go into the abyss. 32 And there was there a herd of many swine feeding on the mountain: and they besought him that he would allow them to enter into them. And he allowed them. 33 The devils therefore went out of the man and entered into the swine. And the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake and were stifled.

Quote from: jeff37923;352317Pawsplay, don't you think it is significant that you are one of the few people still advocating the merits of a game based around gang rape? Does Skarka's Law ring a bell?

I'm not advocating the merits of the game. I'm just defending it's right to exist against utterly hypocritical standards.

Quote from: David R;352310You mean those unofficial rules you quoted ?

Edit: As to how you interpret them, with some thought and consideration for your fellow players, I hope.

Regards,
David R

So quote the rulebook back at me. I am at a disadvantage in not having it by my desk, but I am sure at least one person who is posting in this thread has the courage to post the rules verbatim.

Quote from: pawsplay;352378So quote the rulebook back at me. I am at a disadvantage in not having it by my desk, but I am sure at least one person who is posting in this thread has the courage to post the rules verbatim.

What the fuck are you talking about ? I was not the one who constructed this elaborate fantasy that Werewolf was about "demonically possesed cannibal rapists", you were. I, J Arcane and Strombringer said that Werewolf was nothing like what you described and invited you to produce some evidence to support your claim. The best you could manage was an unoffical wiki site. I find it amusing that someone who is so offended by our supposed hypocritical standards has to resorts to half truths and rhetorical trickery to sustain his arguments.

Regards,
David R

Quote from: pawsplay;352376Sorry, demonic possession is doctrinal.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12315a.htm

and Biblical

Luke 8

26 And they sailed to the country of the Gerasens, which is over against Galilee. 27 And when he had come forth to the land, there met him a certain man who had a devil now a very long time. And he wore no clothes: neither did he abide in a house, but in the sepulchres. 28 And when he saw Jesus, he fell down before him. And crying out with a loud voice, he said: What have I to do with you, Jesus, Son of the most high God? I beseech you, do not torment me. 29 For he commanded the unclean spirit to go out of the man. For many times it seized him: and he was bound with chains and kept in fetters: and breaking the bonds, he was driven by the devil into the deserts.

30 And Jesus asked him, saying: What is your name? But he said: Legion. Because many devils were entered into him. 31 And they besought him that he would not command them to go into the abyss. 32 And there was there a herd of many swine feeding on the mountain: and they besought him that he would allow them to enter into them. And he allowed them. 33 The devils therefore went out of the man and entered into the swine. And the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake and were stifled.

Are you fucking serious, troll-bait?  You link a web page for the online version of a Catholic Encyclopedia and you quote the bible as your source for evidence that demonic possession is doctrinal?

Quote from: pawsplay;352377I'm not advocating the merits of the game. I'm just defending it's right to exist against utterly hypocritical standards.

If the game had merits, you would not need to defend its "right to exist".

Quote from: pawsplay;352376Sorry, demonic possession is doctrinal.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12315a.htm

You really are a cocksmock. From your link,

   As we gather from the Fathers and the theologians, the soul itself can never be "possessed" nor deprived of liberty, though its ordinary control over the members of the body may be hindered by the obsessing spirit [...]

Why possession should manifest itself in one country rather than another, why it should have been so common in the time of Christ and so comparatively rare in our own, why even in Palestine it should have been confined almost entirely to the province of Galilee are questions on which theologians have speculated but on which no sure conclusion can ever be reached
[My emphasis]
Lots about demons tempting you with sweet, sweet sin. Not much at all about demons making you go crazy and eat people. And even if they do "possess" you, they just "hinder" your control. See, Catholics have this other doctrine, the doctrine of free will. You know, we as adults are responsible for our own actions and all that. Being possessed by demons kinda flies against that. So they don't like to talk about that much. If you're "possessed" it's because you gave yourself over to them. In the end it's all up to you.

For these reasons, mainstream Catholics are not offended by stories of demonic possession. Because it doesn't happen much at all nowadays - says Catholic doctrine. And even if it does, it happened because some nasty or weak person wanted it to - same as any ordinary crime.

Also, nothing about lycanthropy, let alone lycanthropy being caused by demonic possession. Which it isn't in the actual game anyway. Cocksmock.

And again, note the complete lack of any kind of Christian church's protest against movies about werewolves. They just don't care.

Quote from: jeffIf the game had merits, you would not need to defend its "right to exist".

ZING!

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;352442You really are a cocksmock. From your link...

You know, if everyone was expected to actually read the links they post, this place would grind to a halt, and nothing would get done.

Clearly an unreasonable expectation.