Quote from: jeff37923 on June 22, 2024, 08:55:54 AMOK, time for some more fan films....

Wish the creator of that would stop taking down his vids. Had a rather nice Doctor Who one too. And some useful tutorials.

Thanks for all the links. A new hope !

Thanks for the vids. I've seen several of them before, but there were plenty I haven't seen.

From Skywalker Stories which is an AI generated bunch of fan films. In spite of how much I loathe AI art, this one really impresses me.

i'll just leave this here

Quote from: Klava on February 22, 2025, 06:20:02 PMi'll just leave this here

Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful!

Quote from: jeff37923 on February 22, 2025, 07:20:12 PMBeautiful! Absolutely beautiful!

i know, right? i almost peed my pants when that canister blew up and set vader on fire - and he continued to berserk as if nothing fucking happened. and when they used those voice lines from #3 - i just sat there with tears in my eyes like a schoolgirl. damn...
imagine having ip like that and fans like that posting videos like that - and releasing the motherfucking acolyte.

I'll just leave this here and say, I definitely appreciate the use of actual people to do the voices rather than AI voice clones. The slight change at the end of the episode from the novels is interesting; I'll need to see how they follow it up before I decide if its a good, bad or neutral one (my hunch is "neutral").

Quote from: Chris24601 on February 24, 2025, 06:20:41 PMI'll just leave this here and say, I definitely appreciate the use of actual people to do the voices rather than AI voice clones. The slight change at the end of the episode from the novels is interesting; I'll need to see how they follow it up before I decide if its a good, bad or neutral one (my hunch is "neutral").

I'm seeing some of the potential with AI for the fan film visuals, but the key is still the writing.

This one I found below has mediocre AI visuals, but the script for it is incredible. Just a debate between a Jedi Master and a Sith Lord on the doctrine of their philosophies.....

EDIT: Fixed quote attribution. Sorry for the original mistake attributing this to Chris24601.

Quote from: jeff37923 on March 02, 2025, 09:29:45 PMI'm seeing some of the potential with AI for the fan film visuals, but the key is still the writing.

This one I found below has mediocre AI visuals, but the script for it is incredible. Just a debate between a Jedi Master and a Sith Lord on the doctrine of their philosophies.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av7G29HHMio

Interesting. This explicitly makes Luke out as a Grey Jedi. That's been a controversial take. I generally like it because I despise the prequel Jedi, but few have been willing to commit to the Grey Jedi, instead waffling over the prequel Jedi flaws.

The prequel Jedi are horrible. They're sanctimonious jackasses who have no problem using cloned child slave soldiers and telling clearly troubled individuals to ignore their feelings rather than going to therapy. The silly thing is that Lucas himself thought they were completely in the right.

The most ridiculous part was Anakin killing the children rather than abducting them and sending them to Palpatine's inquisitor school. They're young and easy to manipulate, that's why the jedi recruit children in the first place!

Quote from: jhkim on March 07, 2025, 05:58:41 PMInteresting. This explicitly makes Luke out as a Grey Jedi. That's been a controversial take. I generally like it because I despise the prequel Jedi, but few have been willing to commit to the Grey Jedi, instead waffling over the prequel Jedi flaws.

Not really.

"Heir to the Empire" was written a decade BEFORE there even were prequels. Without the prequels, authors could only go off the information the original trilogy gave us.

Luke being the son of Jedi meant in 1990 that Jedi could obviously be married and have romance.

There was no nonsense about no attachments in the OT; indeed, Vader was saved by his love for/attachment to his son so obviously Jedi felt emotions like normal people.

It was presumed that Obi-wan and Yoda's descriptions of Jedi as noble and good warriors using the Force only for knowledge and defense was completely factual.

Obi-wan was wearing the same sort of attire as other desert dwellers so there was no presumption he was wearing a Jedi uniform (indeed I recall an interview with Lucas from around the time of RotJ that Luke's black outfit was meant to be his reconstruction of a Jedi uniform).

You call it Grey Jedi, but at the time it was written Luke was being presented as the ideal Jedi as Jedi were understood at the time.

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 07, 2025, 06:49:48 PM

Quote from: jhkim on March 07, 2025, 05:58:41 PMInteresting. This explicitly makes Luke out as a Grey Jedi. That's been a controversial take. I generally like it because I despise the prequel Jedi, but few have been willing to commit to the Grey Jedi, instead waffling over the prequel Jedi flaws.

Not really.

"Heir to the Empire" was written a decade BEFORE there even were prequels. Without the prequels, authors could only go off the information the original trilogy gave us.

I think you've mixed references here. I wasn't talking about "Star Wars: Heir to the Empire - The Anime" that Chris24601 posted.

I was referring to the video that jeff37923 posted, entitled "Luke Skywalker encounters Darth Malgus on Korriban". Here's the dialog:

QuoteLuke: Learning often requires stepping into the unknown R2, even when it's uncomfortable.

(Luke lands and enters temple)

Luke: There's something else here, something cold.

Malgus: You feel it don't you? The echoes of power, the desperation of those who refuse to be bound by your Jedi chains.

Luke: I didn't come here to fight.

Malgus: Yet your blade says otherwise. Says the Jedi clinging to weapons while pretending to seek peace.

Luke: Peace doesn't come without vigilance, but violence is not my purpose here.

Malgus: You're not like the Jedi I remember. They hid their fears behind doctrine. You carry yours openly.

Luke: Fear isn't something to hide from. It's something to confront and to understand. That's why I'm here.

Malgus: To understand fear. How quaint. The Jedi have always been too timid to grasp the depth of what fear truly is. Fear is not merely an emotion. It is a catalyst.

Luke: A catalyst for what? Pain? Despair? You use fear to dominate -- to control. That isn't strength. It's dependency.

Malgus: No, Skywalker. It is freedom. To embrace fear is to master it -- to wield it as a tool. The Jedi would have you suppress it, lock it away, and in doing so deny yourself its power...

Luke: Power that burns everything it touches. The Sith see fear as a weapon, but you forget that weapons cut both ways. Unchecked, it consumes. It turns strength into desperation; clarity into chaos.

Malgus: It was fear that led your father to his greatest strength. Do not deny it. Fear for his wife, his children. It unlocked power the Jedi would have forced him to suppress.

Luke: My father's fear didn't save him. It destroyed him. It twisted everything he loved into something he couldn't recognize, and in the end it was love, not fear, that brought him back.

Malgus: Love... a fleeting weakness. It blinds. It binds. It chains. Fear on the other hand liberates.

Luke: Does it? Or does it trap you in an endless cycle of conflict and pain? You speak of liberation but look at what fear has built for you -- a galaxy in ruins, a legacy of ashes.

Malgus: Ashes can be fertile ground for rebirth. Earth. Perhaps you and I see the same truth, Skywalker, but from opposite ends. You see the potential for healing; I see the necessity of breaking.

Luke: Breaking without rebuilding is just destruction. The Jedi failed because they feared the truth of emotions; the
Sith fail because they let those emotions consume them. There has to be something more -- a balance.

Malgus: The Jedi preach of balance, of peace, yet they deny the very emotions that make us whole. Anger, fear, passion -- these are not weaknesses. They are truths.

Luke: The Jedi of old suppressed their emotions, and yes, they were blind because of it. But the Sith, you let your emotions consume you. Anger becomes hatred; passion becomes obsession; and that leads to destruction.

Malgus: You speak with a wisdom I didn't expect from a Jedi. The ones I knew were blind, clinging to a broken code but you... You question; you adapt. That is admirable.

Luke: Questioning is the first step to understanding, but understanding without action means nothing.

Malgus: You are a curious one, Skywalker. A Jedi who does not blindly follow the code. Perhaps there is hope for your kind after all.

Luke: There's always hope... even here. You find peace.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 07, 2025, 06:05:30 PMThe most ridiculous part was Anakin killing the children rather than abducting them and sending them to Palpatine's inquisitor school. They're young and easy to manipulate, that's why the jedi recruit children in the first place!

Hey, to be fair, the last time Anakin murdered (Tusken) children, it got Padme to spread her legs for him.

Quote from: jhkim on March 07, 2025, 08:04:35 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 07, 2025, 06:49:48 PM

Quote from: jhkim on March 07, 2025, 05:58:41 PMInteresting. This explicitly makes Luke out as a Grey Jedi. That's been a controversial take. I generally like it because I despise the prequel Jedi, but few have been willing to commit to the Grey Jedi, instead waffling over the prequel Jedi flaws.

Not really.

"Heir to the Empire" was written a decade BEFORE there even were prequels. Without the prequels, authors could only go off the information the original trilogy gave us.

I think you've mixed references here. I wasn't talking about "Star Wars: Heir to the Empire - The Anime" that Chris24601 posted.

You misattributed the quote to me (Chris24601)... I only posted one comment about Heir to The Empire so I didn't bother to reread the quoted text to notice it wasn't mine until you said this.