Why are atheists so anti-religion?

HinterWelt · February 23, 2007, 12:13:46 PM

Quote from: JamesVAnd let's admit that's some lame bullshit right there. I'm a religious man (observing lent as we speak and not eating meat) and even I think the days of automatically not taxing religions should come to an end. I think religious groups need to prove their nonprofit status and report finances just like any other service organization, or admit they're cash cows and pay up.

Religion has often used its special status to hide its own corruptions without oversight from even it's own constituents, and that is a detriment to free society.

I would argue that the people profiting from the action use religion to do so. But that is me, grumpy.

Bill

James McMurray · February 23, 2007, 01:19:04 PM

Quote from: Dominus NoxReligion is a bunch of people believing in an invisible magic giant who tells them they're better than everyone else because he likes them more, and that it's OK for them to attack, rob, murder or enslave people who believe in other invisible magic giants because their invisible magic giants aren't real.

Change that to "some religions are" and I'll agree. Use it as a universal definition and you demonstrate your idiocy.

John Morrow · February 23, 2007, 01:41:51 PM

Quote from: Dominus NoxReligion is a bunch of people believing in an invisible magic giant who tells them they're better than everyone else because he likes them more, and that it's OK for them to attack, rob, murder or enslave people who believe in other invisible magic giants because their invisible magic giants aren't real.

Do you really think people need to believe in "an invisible magic giant" in order to find reasons to attack, rob, murder, and enslave other people?

Ian Absentia · February 23, 2007, 02:15:59 PM

They don't really need to, no. It does sometimes help broach the threshold, though.

!i!

Dominus Nox · February 23, 2007, 06:03:14 PM

Quote from: John MorrowDo you really think people need to believe in "an invisible magic giant" in order to find reasons to attack, rob, murder, and enslave other people?

Well, admittedly, some people have made other excuses for persecuting and destroying others. In america "patriotism" has been used a lot, not there's the great dogma of "Political correctness" which seems to be popular here.

John Morrow · February 23, 2007, 08:17:40 PM

Quote from: Dominus NoxWell, admittedly, some people have made other excuses for persecuting and destroying others. In america "patriotism" has been used a lot, not there's the great dogma of "Political correctness" which seems to be popular here.

You seem to be wearing a very selective set of blinders when it comes to seeing the worlds ills. In the big scheme of things, both of those don't come even close to the dogmas of central planning, wealth redistribution, and class warfare.

John Morrow · February 23, 2007, 08:19:48 PM

Quote from: Ian AbsentiaThey don't really need to, no. It does sometimes help broach the threshold, though.

You might want to compare and contrast these charges with the charges critics level against role-playing games when they blame them for murder. The truth is that just about anything can set a deranged mind off.

zeek33333333 · March 06, 2007, 11:18:20 PM

Of course us athiests are anti-religious. I go to a Catholic school and every day I must pray and blah blah bout the 40 days of lent. I hate it. I am anti-religious/athiest/ if I were religious I would bow to the devil. Email medragonclan72@hotmail.com you anti relgious ppls.:pundit:

Ian Absentia · March 07, 2007, 12:20:39 AM

I smell a trap...

!i!

RPGPundit · March 07, 2007, 10:03:40 AM

Quote from: SettembriniIt´s a US thing. I heard a radio show, in which that was discussed.They said some Atheist groups in the US are getting quite militant and cultish these days.

Over here, it´s a total non-subject.

Over there, the vast majority of the population are agnostic/nonpracticing. Its easier to not get in a knot about your atheism when you aren't surrounded by Jesus-freaks in positions of power.

RPGPundit

J Arcane · March 07, 2007, 10:13:18 AM

QuoteIt´s a US thing. I heard a radio show, in which that was discussed.They said some Atheist groups in the US are getting quite militant and cultish these days.

Over here, it´s a total non-subject.

Richard Dawkins, the bigoted fuckwit GRIM and Mr. A are so fond of, is English. so is Mr. A for that matter. I dunno about GRIM.

And as for the US religious population, well, there's a large percentage of the population here that yes, pays lipservice to being religion, and may even believe on some level, but the amount of active practitioners is much smaller.

Ian Absentia · March 07, 2007, 11:19:39 AM

Quote from: J ArcaneAnd as for the US religious population, well, there's a large percentage of the population here that yes, pays lipservice to being religion, and may even believe on some level, but the amount of active practitioners is much smaller.

Quite. Rather like the split between the number of poll respondents who clearly state that, while they identify with one religious denomination or another, they don't attend services regularly (or at all), and they believe that angels affect their personal lives daily. It chalks up mostly to popular superstition and group association, not true religious fervor.

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J Arcane · March 07, 2007, 11:29:21 AM

Quote from: Ian AbsentiaQuite. Rather like the split between the number of poll respondents who clearly state that, while they identify with one religious denomination or another, they don't attend services regularly (or at all), and they believe that angels affect their personal lives daily. It chalks up mostly to popular superstition and group association, not true religious fervor.

!i!

Exactly. It's a muddier concept than simply "All them 'Merikans is crazy religious folks!"

But people like silly blanket statements.

RPGPundit · March 07, 2007, 04:05:57 PM

Quote from: J ArcaneRichard Dawkins, the bigoted fuckwit GRIM and Mr. A are so fond of, is English. so is Mr. A for that matter. I dunno about GRIM.

And as for the US religious population, well, there's a large percentage of the population here that yes, pays lipservice to being religion, and may even believe on some level, but the amount of active practitioners is much smaller.

The US has the largest percentage of regular churchgoers and self-described fundamentalists of any 1st world nation. No other 1st world country comes even close.

Ironically, Uruguay has the lowest rate of those, out of any latinamerican nation. It was the first country in South America to establish the separation of church and state, its unbelievably secular by third-world standards.

RPGPundit

Serious Paul · March 07, 2007, 06:24:51 PM

Quote from: RPGPunditThe US has the largest percentage of regular churchgoers and self-described fundamentalists of any 1st world nation. No other 1st world country comes even close.

I'm curious then, are they a majority of the population here in the United States or are they just a "really big group"?