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Who is up for Moorcock's Hawkmoon to be re-imagined as Black Lesbian

Started by Gagarth, December 12, 2019, 11:37:57 AM

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Gagarth

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December 16, 2019, 06:30:49 AM
Quote from: insubordinate polyhedral;1116569I mean, Spinachcat has the right of it. There's definitely an element of "this time will be different!!!"-style insanity to my point. OTOH: Ghostbusters: Afterlife? WW84? Not series though. But I'm pretty out of the loop on those.

Those are good curious examples.  Wonder Woman was a target for the new ultra woke James Cameron. Patty Jenkins  is directing WW84 and haven't I haven't seen anything from her about how if you don't like WW84 movie you are a racist and a misogynist. Ghostbusters: Afterlife is directed by Jason Reitman the son of the director of the Ghostbuster I & II and stated this fans of the original films.  Defiantly not the team of Ghostbusters 2016 who said if you don't like our movie you are a racist and a misogynist.  

A better comparison with BBC would be saying "this time will different!!!!" about the next output from the makers of HBO Watchmen, Ghostbusters 2016, Terminator: Dark Fate, Charlie's Angels, Captain Marvel, Disney Star Wars or Lena Dunham.
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insubordinate polyhedral

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December 16, 2019, 10:39:36 AM
Quote from: Gagarth;1116666Those are good curious examples.  Wonder Woman was a target for the new ultra woke James Cameron. Patty Jenkins  is directing WW84 and haven't I haven't seen anything from her about how if you don't like WW84 movie you are a racist and a misogynist. Ghostbusters: Afterlife is directed by Jason Reitman the son of the director of the Ghostbuster I & II and stated this fans of the original films.  Defiantly not the team of Ghostbusters 2016 who said if you don't like our movie you are a racist and a misogynist.  

A better comparison with BBC would be saying "this time will different!!!!" about the next output from the makers of HBO Watchmen, Ghostbusters 2016, Terminator: Dark Fate, Charlie's Angels, Captain Marvel, Disney Star Wars or Lena Dunham.

Emphasis mine -- that's the point I was trying to make way back upthread, why I think there is a glimmer of hope that at least merits a "wait for more information before going in swinging": based on their previous work, the listed leaders of the Hawkmoon efforts appear to be more of the Reitman / Jenkins / Tarantino / try to make things that don't suck camp than the Feig / Dunham / Johnson / make a bad movie then blame the audience for disliking it camp.

Yes BBC's bonkers politic is a risk, and maybe these guys are in the other camp after all. But also I think every studio has released audience-blaming garbage at this point, and having the right people involved seems to help at least some. Both 2016 and Afterlife are Sony, for example.

Also, thanks to this thread I have also learned that the world is basically out of luck buying an eBook copy of the Hawkmoon series if you're not in the UK. :( Can I Brenter for like 5 mins? I like tea well enough.

Warder

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December 20, 2019, 07:07:11 PM
I would love some original tv series in the vein of the Dancers at the End of Time or Jerry Cornelius. But alas, Hawkmoon is pretty.. hmm. Standard fantasy fare. Elric is too these days. And if they make it woke im gonna be doubtly discouraged. I wonder if Moorcock actually gives an iota of a care what they do with his property.

Spinachcat

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December 20, 2019, 09:10:48 PM
Quote from: Warder;1117118I wonder if Moorcock actually gives an iota of a care what they do with his property.

Moorcock is 80. At this point, media interest equals a big fat check to leave his kids and grandkids so they can buy Porsches, mansions and cocaine.

Garry G

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December 26, 2019, 12:35:38 PM
So is Dorian Hawkmoon going to be a black lesbian?
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