Well it's not rpgs but the book in question is old enough that this rather pathetic but I figured i should mention it here for the sake of informing people.
This is nothing new. Back round 2010 or so Either Israel or some Jewish organization banned the cartoon Flight of Dragons.
BGG covert unseens RPGs and board games on a regular bases that offend their sensebilities. Games they never even bother to actually look at and see if the hew and cry was real or not.
Even here there used to be members calling for RPGs to be "cleaned up" so "people will respect us!!!"
20+ years later and they have succeeded in getting us now labeled "kidults". yeahhhhh. respeeeeect.
The term "Adulting" being a real thing, I would say there are a lot of adults who still behave and think like children, and not in the good ways where you're creative and imaginative, but in the bad ways where you try and not take responsibility or do things that are requires.
So yeah "kidults" is probably warranted as a label for some people. Like.. treating cats or dogs as a replacement for having children.
Quote from: Banjo Destructo on December 09, 2024, 09:21:20 AMThe term "Adulting" being a real thing, I would say there are a lot of adults who still behave and think like children, and not in the good ways where you're creative and imaginative, but in the bad ways where you try and not take responsibility or do things that are requires.
So yeah "kidults" is probably warranted as a label for some people. Like.. treating cats or dogs as a replacement for having children.
Except that is not even remotely how the term is being used. wotc wants D&D to be more "toyetic" and appeal to "kidults" which is apparently ALL the players they believe. Its even been used on CNN to describe the player protest over the OSR blowup.
Quote from: Omega on December 09, 2024, 01:52:08 PMQuote from: Banjo Destructo on December 09, 2024, 09:21:20 AMThe term "Adulting" being a real thing, I would say there are a lot of adults who still behave and think like children, and not in the good ways where you're creative and imaginative, but in the bad ways where you try and not take responsibility or do things that are requires.
So yeah "kidults" is probably warranted as a label for some people. Like.. treating cats or dogs as a replacement for having children.
Except that is not even remotely how the term is being used. wotc wants D&D to be more "toyetic" and appeal to "kidults" which is apparently ALL the players they believe. Its even been used on CNN to describe the player protest over the OSR blowup.
I dunno, the kidults seem like the same kind of people who say "adulting" when reluctantly doing responsible things.
as someone who grew up during the original satanic panic, it is SO weird seeing copies of D&D rule books on the shelves at walmart next to the bibles.
Only Satan would kick a cat!
Quote from: remial on December 10, 2024, 06:20:46 PMas someone who grew up during the original satanic panic, it is SO weird seeing copies of D&D rule books on the shelves at walmart next to the bibles.
I'm not any where near that old but I will secend that for no other reason then I have met the type.
Another one is very churchy peaple who play dnd or other ttrpgs. I'm thinking of a paladium system video where the guy felt the need to name drop still being a christan and playing paladium fantasy.
Notice it's mostly women who are in on this? I find it strange we aren't seeing more and more of this, now that Trump won the election. They did the same thing when Regan won the election. Coincidence? I think not. Controlled-fucking-opposition is what all this is, imho. They have to keep tradition and, in particular, the real Christian church oppressed or else they lose! IMHO.
Quote from: kosmos1214 on December 11, 2024, 10:48:20 PMQuote from: remial on December 10, 2024, 06:20:46 PMas someone who grew up during the original satanic panic, it is SO weird seeing copies of D&D rule books on the shelves at walmart next to the bibles.
I'm not any where near that old but I will secend that for no other reason then I have met the type.
Another one is very churchy peaple who play dnd or other ttrpgs. I'm thinking of a paladium system video where the guy felt the need to name drop still being a christan and playing paladium fantasy.
Yeah. For a time the BX, Star Frontiers and Gamma World boxed sets were in department stores. Remember finding it in the board game section.
Unfortunately where I lived was still believing the Satanic Panic and one of my players was taken away by the church one day and was not till years later learned he had been sent to a "cult deprogramming camp" and was trapped there for 2 years. There was nothing left in him when I saw him.
The mom of two of my other players freaked out and moved out of state.
And through this the library we were using to game in by renting an office kept fabricating complaints and eventually trashed the meeting room and blamed it on us.
Quote from: Omega on December 14, 2024, 02:47:02 AMUnfortunately where I lived was still believing the Satanic Panic and one of my players was taken away by the church one day and was not till years later learned he had been sent to a "cult deprogramming camp" and was trapped there for 2 years. There was nothing left in him when I saw him.
Cool story. Has he written a book?
I'm not gonna say that the satanic panic was right, but I've never met a satanist that didn't also play D&D.
Quote from: hedgehobbit on December 14, 2024, 10:31:06 AMI'm not gonna say that the satanic panic was right, but I've never met a satanist that didn't also play D&D.
I should hope not! I mean, where else would someone like you meet a self-avowed satanist?
Quote from: Zalman on December 14, 2024, 12:57:00 PMQuote from: hedgehobbit on December 14, 2024, 10:31:06 AMI'm not gonna say that the satanic panic was right, but I've never met a satanist that didn't also play D&D.
I should hope not! I mean, where else would someone like you meet a self-avowed satanist?
The Democratic National Convention?
Quote from: Omega on December 14, 2024, 02:47:02 AMQuote from: kosmos1214 on December 11, 2024, 10:48:20 PMQuote from: remial on December 10, 2024, 06:20:46 PMas someone who grew up during the original satanic panic, it is SO weird seeing copies of D&D rule books on the shelves at walmart next to the bibles.
I'm not any where near that old but I will secend that for no other reason then I have met the type.
Another one is very churchy peaple who play dnd or other ttrpgs. I'm thinking of a paladium system video where the guy felt the need to name drop still being a christan and playing paladium fantasy.
Yeah. For a time the BX, Star Frontiers and Gamma World boxed sets were in department stores. Remember finding it in the board game section.
Unfortunately where I lived was still believing the Satanic Panic and one of my players was taken away by the church one day and was not till years later learned he had been sent to a "cult deprogramming camp" and was trapped there for 2 years. There was nothing left in him when I saw him.
The mom of two of my other players freaked out and moved out of state.
And through this the library we were using to game in by renting an office kept fabricating complaints and eventually trashed the meeting room and blamed it on us.
Sounds like something Philip K. Dick would've written... Did it work, or is he still voting Democrat?
j/k
Quote from: hedgehobbit on December 14, 2024, 10:31:06 AMI'm not gonna say that the satanic panic was right, but I've never met a satanist that didn't also play D&D.
Bah. Satanists don't even believe in Satan any more. It's just edgelord atheism. Lame.
Quote from: yosemitemike on December 19, 2024, 01:10:00 AMQuote from: hedgehobbit on December 14, 2024, 10:31:06 AMI'm not gonna say that the satanic panic was right, but I've never met a satanist that didn't also play D&D.
Bah. Satanists don't even believe in Satan any more. It's just edgelord atheism. Lame.
They may not believe in Satan, but Satan believes in them. Most mental illness isn't demonic, but sometimes you wonder with these types.
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 14, 2024, 03:46:27 AMQuote from: Omega on December 14, 2024, 02:47:02 AMUnfortunately where I lived was still believing the Satanic Panic and one of my players was taken away by the church one day and was not till years later learned he had been sent to a "cult deprogramming camp" and was trapped there for 2 years. There was nothing left in him when I saw him.
Cool story. Has he written a book?
Thats a hateful thing to say of someone who was taken away and locked up just for playing a fucking game.
Quote from: Omega on December 23, 2024, 04:37:08 PMQuote from: HappyDaze on December 14, 2024, 03:46:27 AMQuote from: Omega on December 14, 2024, 02:47:02 AMUnfortunately where I lived was still believing the Satanic Panic and one of my players was taken away by the church one day and was not till years later learned he had been sent to a "cult deprogramming camp" and was trapped there for 2 years. There was nothing left in him when I saw him.
Cool story. Has he written a book?
Thats a hateful thing to say of someone who was taken away and locked up just for playing a fucking game.
Not trying to be hateful, but I doubt there's all that much truth to your story.
As a Christian and a Puritanical/Prude:
I loathe the Math Walshes as much as I loathe the Extra Credits types.
The first want to censor stuff you can see in the Vatican because "muh porn", the others want to censor the same things because "muh male gaze"!
Fuck them both with a razor wire wrapped baseball bat, sideways!
I don't even want to ban REAL porn, God gave us free will because without it we're not good, we're just robots.
In order for you not watching porn being virtuous you need to have the ability to watch it and resist doing so for the right reasons.