Well, in america we had our worst single shooting today, with at least 32 dead from a single shooter at a college in Blacksburg, Va.

(The shooter was a chinese national over here on a visa, so no doubt retards like pundit will accuse me of anti-chinese "RACISM!!!"  for speaking on this issue, so let me don my white robes and hood, and light my mini flaming cross on my desk so as to let them know how little their mindless chant of "RACIST!!! RACIST!!! RACIST!!!" means to me.)

Before the last body had fallen, it seems, and before the total death toll at the time was known, anti-gun groups were using this as an excuse to call for "tighter gun control" (A term that translates into "Abolition of gun ownership") as a way of fighting things like this.

Since this guy was apparently here on a visa, he could not have bought guns legally, meaning he acquired his weapons ilegally in all probability. This means that laws would not have deterred him from getting guns and comitting his rampage.

But let's put all that aside for now. (And yes, I'm pro gun ownership, to answer inevitable questions.)

I am filled with rage and pure, unadalterated odium at the anti-gun fanatics for making this mass tragedy a political issue before the blood of the victims had even ceased flowing from their wounds.

The anti-gun crown in america are fanatics, plain and simple. They are on a jyhad to eliminate the second ammendment and disarm the american public.

Their fanaticism has so utterly consumed them that they are no longer capable of common human decency, as ecidenced by the fact they are exploiting the deaths of at least 32 people (I don't count the shooter) for their own ends.

Don't you fanatical scum even know what a shred of decency looks like?!?!

How can you try turning this massacre into an issue to serve your own ends even before the most basic facts of the case are fully known?

I think the anti-gun crowd's cynical, obscene exploitation of the events at the college in Blacksburg show that they are utterly devoid of human decency, and so dedicated to their cause that they should be regarded as fanatical.

I hate the anti-gun crowd right now. Oh god, how I hate them...

And here was I thinking that the disgust, feeling of odium and hatred would be towards... the murderer.

It's a tragedy, and my thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.

I agree with you.  I am a very proud gun owner who has never committed a crime with a gun, nor have I acquired any of my guns illegally.

And yet my own people don't trust me with them.

Quote from: JimBobOzIt's a tragedy, and my thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.

My thoughts exactly.

Well, of course I feel for the victims and their grieving families. That's one of the reasons I'm so fucking disgusted with the scum trying to exploit this and turn it into a political/social issue without regard to lett he victim's families have a fucking moment to grieve without knowing their loved ones deaths are being cynically and shamelessly exploited by fanatical scum.

Don't tell us.  Tell them.

Wailing on an rpg message board isn't going to change anything.  Send your views to those who can do something about it.  Like the media, the anti gun lobby themselves etc.

... or, y'know, take a one day moratorium from rabid, obsessive hatred entirely.  

Nox:  If you want to show respect for the victims, screaming "I hate those people who are using this tragedy to promote their views!" is really not the way.

I'm pretty sure that one of the lessons here is that hate is bad, and that we could all do with less of it.

Quote from: TonyLBNox:  If you want to show respect for the victims, screaming "I hate those people who are using this tragedy to promote their views!" is really not the way.

Quote from: Dominus Nox[...] How can you try turning this massacre into an issue to serve your own ends even before the most basic facts of the case are fully known? [...]

Irony! My favourite kind of humour. 'Cept, I ain't laughin'.

TonyLB, sometimes the only reply you can have to someone is silence.

Quote from: Dominus NoxDon't you fanatical scum even know what a shred of decency looks like?!?!

Display decency by concern for the families and friends of the victims, and the victims still alive, and injured or traumatised. I'm sure someone will set up some kind of fund for them all in the coming days, perhaps Dominus Nox could show his concern for them by donating to it.

Show a shred of decency by not using the tragedy to express your opinions on the political issues it raises. At least let the victims go cold in their graves first.

Again, my thoughts and prayers go with the families and friends of the dead victims, the injured victims, and the family and friends of the shooter. It's a tragedy all-round.

My thoughts are with the grieving familiies, the wounded students and traumatized in Virginia.

While this was going onyeserday, the satellite dish store next to the store was playing the CNN live coverage of it.  
There is a kids  play area in the middle of the hallway in front of our stores. An old friend of mine, Tom was there with his wife and two youg kids. He was doing his best to watch his kids and keep them distrascted from thevolume of the big screen TV News about the tragedy.
Around 5 to 6 years ago Tom had to leave town and get a special operation in Chicago - he had heart problems that were life threatening  and was in his mid -30s, and single.
 Now he is married and with 2 kids and thinking about getting back into fan activities again.
 Even with tragedies going on - there is good stuff also  going on around us..... Life goes on.


- Ed C.

Quote from: Dominus Nox(The shooter was a chinese national over here on a visa, so no doubt retards like pundit will accuse me of anti-chinese "RACISM!!!"  for speaking on this issue, so let me don my white robes and hood, and light my mini flaming cross on my desk so as to let them know how little their mindless chant of "RACIST!!! RACIST!!! RACIST!!!" means to me.)

(emphasis mine)

no, but it's probably safe to accuse you of being incorrect.  
next time, wait for the facts.

I feel for the families and will prey for them. But frankly it is rather disgusting how this is being treated. This was a great tragidy but do you see us so heart broken over all the other just as tragic happenings around the world? Just yesterday 17 bodies were found around mexico in trash sacks and cars, ducktaped and exocuted. Ten Afghani police men and dozens of others were killed and injured by a suicide bomber while playing soccer. Also the mayor of Nagasaki was shot while on campian in an apparent assasination attempt.

That was just yesterday. Where is the public out cry? Where are the moments of silence and greif? We as Americans are so caught up in our problems that unless it is an American death it does not matter as much. Look at any news articule about a group killed outside of the U.S.. It will say this many killed including Joe and Mary Smith of Kansas. Then it will go into how this was their 3rd trip to timbuktu. All of America will cry out. Politicians will wring their hands and maybe the Presadent will say a few words about the Smiths. What makes the lives of those Americans so important and the lives of the others killed only worth a body count?

When America starts crying for all the Children killed in a day not just our own, then will we finally be a true society of justice. The true tragidy is that all the students that died yesterday will be forgotten when the next batch of American citizens dies on television.

Peace be with all of you.

Depending on whose figures you believe, from 100 to 500 Iraqis get killed every day.

Should we drag out the old Stalin quote now? (I think it was him, at least)

Quote from: JimBobOzTonyLB, sometimes the only reply you can have to someone is silence.

Followed immediately by a reply to Nox.

Irony! My favourite kind of humour.

Quote from: Dominus NoxWell, in america we had our worst single shooting today, with at least 32 dead from a single shooter at a college in Blacksburg, Va.

(snip)

How can you try turning this massacre into an issue to serve your own ends even before the most basic facts of the case are fully known?

The most basic facts are "A guy with a gun shot people."

We were pretty well on top of that.

Now, here's the thing, when something happens, especially something bad, people want to deal with it. If, say, there's a fire, people want to know what started teh fire and what can be done to prevent it in the future. People will speculate, even as the place is burning, on how it started.

When people are getting killed, the question, "How are they being killed?" is valid, and when teh answer is given immediately, "They are being shot," then you usually move on to "How do we stop this from happening again?"

Same as if you'd stepped in a bear trap. At first, you'd go, "AUGH! OW! Oh my sweet lord in Heaven, how this hurts!" but, after a bit, you'd ask, "Who was teh moron who LEFT this here?!" and so forth.

Had the story instead been "Fast-thinking quickdraw artist whips out a pistol and guns down a terrorist on school's front lawn," the pro-pistol-packers would be JUST as fast to jump up and go, "See? See? Having guns prevents crime!"

So, hey, how about you sit back, calm down a bit, and think about the people who lost loved ones, then maybe, just maybe, ask, "How can we try and prevent this in teh future?"

You'll find it much more useful than seeing a gun-based tragedy on teh TV, LEAPING to your keyboard, and furiously typing "They'd better not try and take away my guns!"

It's, you know ... rational.

And benig rational is your friend.