The Movie Thread Reloaded

[Omega]

To say nothing of the classic Dr. Who serial The Seeds of Death.

I would wager that the Die Hard clones outnumber even the Thing-alikes. The Die Hard formula really lends itself to low budget movies, since there's only the one location, and unlike the Thing, you don't even need an expensive monster.

At one point Kevin Smith was even going to do a Mallrats sequel called Die Hard in a Mall.

Oddly not as many Die Hard-like movies as one would expect. Under Siege though was joked as "Die Hard on a ship!", Air Force one as "Doe Hard with the Presedent!", Passenger as "Die Hard on a plane!", Cliffhanger as "Diehard on a Mountain!" and "The Taking of Beverly Hills" as "Die Hard in Hollywood", Home Alone as "Die Hard with a Kid!" and so on in some comedy skit way back.
Theres also Space Mutiny as "Die Hard in Space!" but it came out in the same year as Die Hard.

[Thornhammer]

Final trailer for the Fallout series is available.

Cautious optimism. 

[Lurkndog]

To say nothing of the classic Dr. Who serial The Seeds of Death.

I would wager that the Die Hard clones outnumber even the Thing-alikes. The Die Hard formula really lends itself to low budget movies, since there's only the one location, and unlike the Thing, you don't even need an expensive monster.

At one point Kevin Smith was even going to do a Mallrats sequel called Die Hard in a Mall.

Oddly not as many Die Hard-like movies as one would expect. Under Siege though was joked as "Die Hard on a ship!", Air Force one as "Doe Hard with the Presedent!", Passenger as "Die Hard on a plane!", Cliffhanger as "Diehard on a Mountain!" and "The Taking of Beverly Hills" as "Die Hard in Hollywood", Home Alone as "Die Hard with a Kid!" and so on in some comedy skit way back.
Theres also Space Mutiny as "Die Hard in Space!" but it came out in the same year as Die Hard.

You're restricting yourself to A-List movies. There were a LOT of Cinemax-grade Die Hard knockoffs produced for the straight-to-video market in the 1990s. As an example, I give you No Contest (1995):

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110675/?ref_=nm_knf_t_4

[Omega]

Terminator = Die Hard with a robot!

[Omega]

Final trailer for the Fallout series is available.

Cautious optimism.

Cautious Pessimism as theres been a few warning signs already from the creators. We'll see if they hose it or not. I am setting my bar rather low as we alreasy have out the vault our "Strong female protagonist #1billion"

[yosemitemike]

Die-hard ripoffs you say?  I have just the video(s)

There are a lot of these things.

[Lurkndog]

Terminator = Die Hard with a robot!

Do we want to define what a Die Hard clone is?

1) Came out after Die Hard (1988).

2) Takes place in a single confined location that is taken over by the bad guys.

3) Our hero is there by accident, and is mostly unprepared for the situation, and the bad guys are unprepared for him/her.

4) The police/authorities aren't going to be much help. Their real job in the movie is to make the bad guys look good.

5) Hero has someone to talk to on the radio, to exchange crucial exposition and humanize the hero. (I just realized, Die Hard was made before cell phones.)

6) In addition to taking out the minor bad guys, our hero has to figure out what the mastermind of the operation is really after, because

7) There is a big swerve where the criminal mastermind's true plan is revealed.

[Lurkndog]

Movies that aren't Die Hard clones:

The Terminator is not Die Hard With A Robot. Hero doesn't have evil minions to take out. Does not take place in a single building. Came out in 1984.

Rambo II is not Die Hard in Vietnam.

Game of Death is not Die Hard in a Pagoda.

The Raid isn't Die Hard in Indonesia. Our hero isn't alone, and gets into the conflict on purpose. The police are invading a fortress, not liberating a building held hostage, and I don't remember there being a Die Hard style plot twist.

[Ratman_tf]

I have been dreading it. (As much as one can dread a television remake) I have fond memories of the original TV miniseries.
Any further commentary?

The casting is good, the acting is good, the outfits are good. First episode has brief nudity but nothing over the top, some gore but again nothing over the top. That one poor bastard, though. Damn.

The language thing was interesting. The Japanese actors speak Japanese and it is subtitled. They sort of handwave the rest - you're supposed to infer that Portugese is being spoken instead of English under some circumstances, but I think it works for ease-of-consumption purposes.

It has a different focus than the 80s version, but I haven't seen anything so far that trips the eyeroll-o-meter.

Ok, got around to the free trial (with ads, ) for HULU and checked out the first two episodes. It is really good. I'm an old fart and prefer the original TV miniseries, but this hasn't done anything cringey so far. In some ways, the story is cleaner and more understandable in the politics aspect. Definitley worth a watch.

[Omega]

Terminator = Die Hard with a robot!

Do we want to define what a Die Hard clone is?

1) Came out after Die Hard (1988).

2) Takes place in a single confined location that is taken over by the bad guys.

3) Our hero is there by accident, and is mostly unprepared for the situation, and the bad guys are unprepared for him/her.

4) The police/authorities aren't going to be much help. Their real job in the movie is to make the bad guys look good.

5) Hero has someone to talk to on the radio, to exchange crucial exposition and humanize the hero. (I just realized, Die Hard was made before cell phones.)

6) In addition to taking out the minor bad guys, our hero has to figure out what the mastermind of the operation is really after, because

7) There is a big swerve where the criminal mastermind's true plan is revealed.

I was joking because sure enough someone WILL redefine it as "Everything on Earth"

Sleeping Beauty = Die Hard with a Faerie Godmother!

[Omega]

Movies that aren't Die Hard clones:

The Terminator is not Die Hard With A Robot. Hero doesn't have evil minions to take out. Does not take place in a single building. Came out in 1984.

Rambo II is not Die Hard in Vietnam.

Game of Death is not Die Hard in a Pagoda.

The Raid isn't Die Hard in Indonesia. Our hero isn't alone, and gets into the conflict on purpose. The police are invading a fortress, not liberating a building held hostage, and I don't remember there being a Die Hard style plot twist.

Bambi = Die Hard without a mom!

heh-heh.

[Lurkndog]

I was joking because sure enough someone WILL redefine it as "Everything on Earth"

Sleeping Beauty = Die Hard with a Faerie Godmother!

Sorry if I overreacted.

It's worth noting that most of the Die Hard sequels fail my litmus test.

[Omega]

Also some merely see the Die Hard theme as "lone guy vs bunch of bad guys" which covers a fairly large swath of action hero movies.

[hedgehobbit]

Final trailer for the Fallout series is available.

Cautious optimism.

From an interview on T3.com:

Speaking at a press event with T3 in attendance, the director and driving force behind the Fallout TV series, Jonathan Nolan, explained that setting out to simply appease the fans of the games would've been "a fool's errand".

"I don't think you really can set out to please the fans of anything," he said. "Or please anyone other than yourself.

"I  think you have to come into this trying to make the show that you want to make and trusting that, as fans of the game [ourselves], we would find the pieces that were essential to us... and try to do the best version."

"It's kind of a fool's errand to try to figure out how to make [other] people happy... You've got to make yourself happy. And I've made myself very happy with the show."

The typical "I made it for myself" line that all of entertainment seems to think is their only job.

[Omega]

"My happiness is your misery."