The Movie Thread Reloaded

[Omega]

Jesus Wept. Now they are going after Rendezvous with Rama apparently.

No link or details?

Rama is basically spectacle. The unfolding of a strange environment. Clarke's characters are almost non-existent. There's a ton of room for writers to get creative, but that also can mean there's a ton of room for writers to make their less interesting stories central.

Looks like the same as did the latest Dune movie. All I saw was an interview where it looks like Rama is next. Morgan Freeman's been trying to get a Rama movie going for quite a while now.

Personal hope is that whomever was interested in Rama moves on to other targets and Freeman instead gets the backing to go forward.

Rama is indeed a exploration movie foremost. With some political jockying on the side in the first and second books. Mercury in the first and some religious sect in the second. You dont need much character for an exploration show.

The big problem will be the likely insistence on violence or something else equally idiotic. It can go in so so many bad ways considering what a mess hollywood is now.

[Omega]

To certain degree yes. But here the dumbest things sort of goes across whole body of film, in a way that makes it hard to swallow.
I mean I think I can safely say it's dumber than Eternals.

It started off ok. But the main problem is they are still obsessed with using the Ultimates setting as the basis. And considering how bad Ultimates was... it is a perfect fit for fake Disney and their agenda squad. Failure is the only option. Expect it to get worse.

[Thornhammer]

I left off with Halo...oh, I think about 2/3 of the way through episode 3. I just got bored with it and picked something else to watch and didn't go back.

Had not heard another word about it until this week when Master Chief was engaging in coitus. I'm not sad that I missed that.

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds has been surprisingly solid with the first two episodes. No stupid spore drive nonsense, the Enterprise looks great, the cast is pretty good, and the plots are good and self-contained. I place it slightly below Lower Decks and WAY above Discovery and Picard. Haven't bothered with Prodigy.

[HappyDaze]

Had not heard another word about it until this week when Master Chief was engaging in coitus. I'm not sad that I missed that.

Then you must have missed the real point of that scene: MC's partner struggling with whether or not she was going to finger him to death after they fucked.

[Wrath of God]

It started off ok. But the main problem is they are still obsessed with using the Ultimates setting as the basis. And considering how bad Ultimates was... it is a perfect fit for fake Disney and their agenda squad. Failure is the only option. Expect it to get worse.

Are they? There was nothing particularly Ultimate! about MCU!Spider-Man, I'd say most Ultimate was Garfield one, with all father's secret subplot and Goblin being partially physically mutated.
I'd say both MCU and Raimi Spider were relatively far from both main Marvel and Ultimate in my general feel, and that's fine.

The most Ultimate thing in MCU for me was making Avengers at least initially tied to government and shield. (And giving Hawkeye family I guess, though that's like only major similarity)
Otherwise - not so much. Ultimate Cap, IM, Hulk, Thor... they were all far removed from bot main-verse and MCU.

And that's fine for me. But then for me Ultimate Marvel started fine, way less convoluted than main, and degenerated with few massive clusterfucks later down the line.

[Omega]

I consider Rami Spider-Man and the first 3 X-men movies to be outside the whole mess overall.

After that its more and more Ultimates till you hit Avengers.

But the whole is a mess of tossing different lines and plots into a blender. Or just make stuff up whole cloth. Which is what they are increasingly doing.

[HappyDaze]

Saw Top Gun: Maverick last week. It had a few moments that demand you turn off your brain and just chew up the visuals, but it was entertaining even while being incredibly predictable.

[Thornhammer]

Strange New Worlds Ep 4: was that some Wrath of Khan music I heard? This episode is heavy as hell with the Enterprise vs Reliant fight...

[Wrath of God]

"Doctor Strange in Multiverse of Madness" was definitely best film of 4th Phase or whatever, and tie as best release overall with "WandaVision".
Raimi did a great job - now it's still MCU movie - but he managed to push more of himself than other estabilished directors like Chloe Zhao. So far only comedy directors managed to push themselves in so far (well at least in recent years, I guess early releases were less Disney controled).

There are few dumb things like always, I guess maybe it should be a little longer (I know most people consider MCU films as too long), but overall it was good fun.

[Thornhammer]

Saw Top Gun: Maverick last week. It had a few moments that demand you turn off your brain and just chew up the visuals, but it was entertaining even while being incredibly predictable.

Saw it in imax with the wife today.

Thought it was better than the first one since this one was about a specific mission rather than straight up combat school.

Lot of fun watching it.

[Omega]

Saw a bit of Shang Chi today and good lord the fight scene I saw was well past bad. The Power Rangers have better fight scenes than this.

Saw Morbius. Oddly not bad. Sloooooooooooooooooow as hell. But not bad. Plot is really uneven though. But with Morbius, Blade and Ghost Rider out they have a basis to try a Midnight Sons movie if they could ever untangle the rights to each character

Was completely unimpressed with Doctor Strange 2

Hints of what the upcoming movies will be like makes me even less interested.

[Battlemaster]

Just saw the remake of Death on the Nile and damn it was good.

Also it showed how to be progressive without being woke. The movie added 2 black women since Christie never included black characters in any level above servant, made them strong and believable and dealt with the racism of the 30s fairly.

This was how to deal with real historical issues fairly, not wokism. I recommend it.

[Wrath of God]

Saw a bit of Shang Chi today and good lord the fight scene I saw was well past bad. The Power Rangers have better fight scenes than this.

Which one was this?
For me they get worse as they went.

[Omega]

Just saw the remake of Death on the Nile and damn it was good.

Also it showed how to be progressive without being woke. The movie added 2 black women since Christie never included black characters in any level above servant, made them strong and believable and dealt with the racism of the 30s fairly.

This was how to deal with real historical issues fairly, not wokism. I recommend it.

Still sounds like woke co-opting.

[hedgehobbit]

Also it showed how to be progressive without being woke. The movie added 2 black women since Christie never included black characters in any level above servant, made them strong and believable and dealt with the racism of the 30s fairly.

Still sounds like woke co-opting.

Woke done right is still Woke. It has gotten to the point where if I even get a whiff of some woke-mandated character tokenization, I'll avoid the movie. And I'm not alone as Death on the Nile made less than half the money of the previous movie in the series.