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The Movie Thread Reloaded

Started by Apparition, January 03, 2018, 11:10:35 PM

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rgalex

Went and saw Shazam! over the weekend with some friends.  It was good.  The story was an origin story, but I don't really mind those so long as we haven't seen them a dozen times before (Batman, Superman, Spider-man, etc).  One of the best surprises was that they didn't show all the funny parts in the trailer.

Overall I'd give it a B+.  Good story, children actors that didn't suck, nice message about family, fun action.  On the downside it was obvious in a few places that the budget didn't allow for the CGI to be as polished as it could have been.  Also, the villain was a little dull but the actor did a good job with what he was given.

HappyDaze

Quote from: rgalex;1082663Went and saw Shazam! over the weekend with some friends.  It was good.  The story was an origin story, but I don't really mind those so long as we haven't seen them a dozen times before (Batman, Superman, Spider-man, etc).  One of the best surprises was that they didn't show all the funny parts in the trailer.

Overall I'd give it a B+.  Good story, children actors that didn't suck, nice message about family, fun action.  On the downside it was obvious in a few places that the budget didn't allow for the CGI to be as polished as it could have been.  Also, the villain was a little dull but the actor did a good job with what he was given.

I enjoyed the movie, but Shazam! had some really conflicting tones. It's 70% lighthearted and fun with 30% holy shit that's violent thrown in. You know there's going to be some fighting in a superhero movie, but some of the violence was a bit surprising to me.

Omega

In a way it is Shazam/Captain Marvel in name only as they really do disservice to both the characters. Not as badly as in New 52. But ugh. Someone missed the memo on who Captain Marvel and Bully Batson are. The TV series, cartoon and even the serial got it down better. Though the TV series deviated massively in other respects.

Shazam feels more like a retooled Prime script for Ultraverse. Looks good though. But like other DC movies, seems to miss the points of the characters, Even Wonder Woman has that problem.

deadDMwalking

Quote from: Omega;1082748Shazam feels more like a retooled Prime script for Ultraverse. Looks good though. But like other DC movies, seems to miss the points of the characters, Even Wonder Woman has that problem.

I thought WonderWoman was the best DC movie by a wide margin.  What do you think the point of the character is and how do you think they missed it?
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Quote from: Omega;1082748In a way it is Shazam/Captain Marvel in name only as they really do disservice to both the characters. Not as badly as in New 52. But ugh. Someone missed the memo on who Captain Marvel and Bully Batson are. The TV series, cartoon and even the serial got it down better. Though the TV series deviated massively in other respects.

Shazam feels more like a retooled Prime script for Ultraverse. Looks good though. But like other DC movies, seems to miss the points of the characters, Even Wonder Woman has that problem.

There's that pesky Wisdom of Solomon that the current comic run pretends isn't a thing, and the movie follows suit.

jhkim

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1082833There's that pesky Wisdom of Solomon that the current comic run pretends isn't a thing, and the movie follows suit.
To be fair, it's not just the current comic run. The same was true in other adaptations like the Young Justice cartoon. A number of writers have been intriguing by the idea of a kid in an adult body. I agree that it isn't the original Captain Marvel of the comics. But a lot of adaptations change things from the original comics considerably. I mostly care about whether it's a good movie first.

With Shazam, I was mixed. I was annoyed by much of the first half of the Shazam movie, but I have to admit, the ending really hooked me.

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Quote from: rgalex;1082185Trailer for the Joker movie dropped.  Lots of people seem to be really excited but I'm just not feeling it.  I just... I don't know.  To me the Joker is just one of those villains I feel is better w/o an official origin.  Also, I kinda think he, of all the villains out there, should never come off as a sympathetic character.  Maybe it's just me though.

I think he's going to start out weird but basically nice, and then end up madly sociopathic and killing people for fun. He actually seems insane, just with his little posture changes and facial expressions.
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Quote from: jhkim;1082842To be fair, it's not just the current comic run. The same was true in other adaptations like the Young Justice cartoon. A number of writers have been intriguing by the idea of a kid in an adult body. I agree that it isn't the original Captain Marvel of the comics. But a lot of adaptations change things from the original comics considerably. I mostly care about whether it's a good movie first.

With Shazam, I was mixed. I was annoyed by much of the first half of the Shazam movie, but I have to admit, the ending really hooked me.

I liked the Justice League version where as Captain Marvel he was more mature and confident. But there was still a kids wonder and hope too.

HappyDaze

I just saw the new Hellboy, and it's really, really bad. I thought about leaving after less than an hour of the film, but I din't really have anything better to do, so I sat through the second half texting with a friend that had the good sense not to join me for the film. The action scenes felt like a video game, and so did the dialogue. But the story...how the hell could they cut & paste it so sloppily that it made almost no sense at all. More than a few times there was the "tell them, show them, then make it totally irrelevant by the next scene" bullshit. This Hellboy wasn't just brooding and sarcastic, he was a whining bitch. The squeaky babydoll voice of the female BPRD agent/medium was grating too.

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Quote from: HappyDaze;1083045But the story...how the hell could they cut & paste it so sloppily that it made almost no sense at all. More than a few times there was the "tell them, show them, then make it totally irrelevant by the next scene".
It's a railroad scenario, where the PCs have to go from scene to scene to fight, and get the next clue for the next encounter.

Ratman_tf

Dare I even mention that the teaser trailer for the new Star Wars film dropped?
I mean, at this point I'm only interested in watching this flaming train finally go sailing off the tracks and crash into the gorge.
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Quote from: Ratman_tf;1083114Dare I even mention that the teaser trailer for the new Star Wars film dropped?
I mean, at this point I'm only interested in watching this flaming train finally go sailing off the tracks and crash into the gorge.

My day was better not knowing that it was out.  

That said, looks like more of the same shit I didn't like in TLJ.

Wonder if they've got the stones to withstand the cries of racism if they off Lando like they have every other OG character.

Thornhammer

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1083124Wonder if they've got the stones to withstand the cries of racism if they off Lando like they have every other OG character.

Nope.  So they won't kill Lando.

He might have been on the chopping block earlier, but not with Carrie Fisher passing away.

The Last Jedi badly, badly damaged my interest in new movies.

I'll admit, though - I was watching the Celebration feed when they showed the trailer.  When Ian McDiarmid walked out, I lost it.  Marked right the fuck out and am not ashamed of that in the slightest.

Ratman_tf

I sat through the trailer. I suspect it's a huge troll. Are they bringing back the Emperor? Who is the Last Skywalker? If only they built up an actually interesting story and characters to care about, I might be equally interested in those questions.
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Omega

Dark side Ghost? Or possibly he he uncovered the secret of immortality and reformed. Or its a clone. Or like Darth Maul, he survived somehow. I mean really. If Maul can survive being cut in half then all bets are off.