The Mandalorian Season 1

Ratman_tf · December 13, 2019, 10:52:39 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze;1116431I'm already getting tired of this show for two reasons.
Almost everybody has to do some kind of juvenile dominance display upon being introduced.
Almost everybody is going to betray Mando, especially if they have previously performed a juvenile dominance display.

I really wish they could show some edgy folks going about their nasty business without the two above bits. I guess I'd just like to see a little more professionalism among the professional criminal elements rather than the slavish following of overused tropes.

Cara Dune didn't betray him. Kuiil (Nick Nolte's character) didn't betray him. Mando did the betraying of IG-11. It's been about 50/50ish so far. And the Mandalorian does run with some unsavory characters. If you're not thrilled at those kinds of stories, the show might not be for you.

I loved this episode.
Bill Burr was... Bill Burr as a Star Wars character. Kinda meh.
Great to hear Clancy Brown's evil laugh.
X-Wing porn!

Good stuff. While they've got a meta-plot running (The Child) it doesn't dominate the show like others I could mention.

HappyDaze · December 13, 2019, 11:30:11 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1116434Cara Dune didn't betray him. Kuiil (Nick Nolte's character) didn't betray him. Mando did the betraying of IG-11. It's been about 50/50ish so far. And the Mandalorian does run with some unsavory characters. If you're not thrilled at those kinds of stories, the show might not be for you.

I loved this episode.
Bill Burr was... Bill Burr as a Star Wars character. Kinda meh.
Great to hear Clancy Brown's evil laugh.
X-Wing porn!

Good stuff. While they've got a meta-plot running (The Child) it doesn't dominate the show like others I could mention.

I think Dune was the only one of those that started with a juvenile dominance display and that didn't turn on him.

It might not be for me--most Star Wars these days isn't--but the use of boring, tired tropes is not helping to pull me in. Even worse,the plots have all been done so many times that 90% of any episode is predictable after watching the first 10 minutes of it.

I'm also one of the few that doesn't care for the child plot at all.

Ratman_tf · December 14, 2019, 01:05:11 AM

Quote from: Lurkndog;1116428The really crazy thing is, most of that episode had to have been shot using Stagecraft, their new rear projection super green screen tech. I couldn't tell. (More about the tech here.) I guess that's why they have so many effects artists listed, since most of their sets are virtual.

Burr mentions green screen tech that actually projects the environment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7825H0xZoo
3:47

Lurkndog · December 15, 2019, 11:32:23 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1116440Burr mentions green screen tech that actually projects the environment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7825H0xZoo
3:47

Yeah, that's Stagecraft. For instance, most of the outdoors scenes in The Mandalorian are actually shot indoors on a soundstage, but the scenery is projected around the actors in 360 degrees so they are actually seeing what they're supposed to be reacting to. Also, the reflections in Mando's shiny armor are all correct, because the armor is reflecting the projected images.

nope · December 16, 2019, 02:42:09 PM

Quote from: Lurkndog;1116636Yeah, that's Stagecraft. For instance, most of the outdoors scenes in The Mandalorian are actually shot indoors on a soundstage, but the scenery is projected around the actors in 360 degrees so they are actually seeing what they're supposed to be reacting to. Also, the reflections in Mando's shiny armor are all correct, because the armor is reflecting the projected images.

I haven't watched the show yet, but that's fucking cool.

Lurkndog · December 17, 2019, 11:14:17 AM

It works amazingly well. I can infer where they must have used Stagecraft, but I can't actually tell.

VisionStorm · December 17, 2019, 05:56:34 PM

Quote from: Antiquation!;1116704I haven't watched the show yet, but that's fucking cool.

It's fucking awesome! The show and the tech.

Overall the show's pretty good, with outstanding production values compared to most series. And Star Wars-wise it's probably the best thing to come out since the Holy Trilogy (I disliked the prequels and despise the sequels; consider only Rogue One passable).

nope · December 17, 2019, 10:21:22 PM

Quote from: VisionStorm;1116797It's fucking awesome! The show and the tech.

Overall the show's pretty good, with outstanding production values compared to most series. And Star Wars-wise it's probably the best thing to come out since the Holy Trilogy (I disliked the prequels and despise the sequels; consider only Rogue One passable).

Our tastes in SW movies sound pretty similar. I have been interested in watching Mandalorian for a bit now based on what I've read, I'm just leery about paying Disney money for their streaming service as I seriously doubt I would watch anything else they have at this point. I suppose there are "other means" out there to watch it but generally I try to pay for what I feel is worth consuming (not that I have always acted that way...).

HappyDaze · December 17, 2019, 10:55:05 PM

Quote from: Antiquation!;1116815Our tastes in SW movies sound pretty similar. I have been interested in watching Mandalorian for a bit now based on what I've read, I'm just leery about paying Disney money for their streaming service as I seriously doubt I would watch anything else they have at this point. I suppose there are "other means" out there to watch it but generally I try to pay for what I feel is worth consuming (not that I have always acted that way...).

There's nothing wrong with watching it with a friend (or a relative) that's paying. That's how i watch it without spending anything on it.

nope · December 17, 2019, 11:13:05 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze;1116816There's nothing wrong with watching it with a friend (or a relative) that's paying. That's how i watch it without spending anything on it.

That is a pretty good point actually. The one wrinkle being that the only people I know who have Disney+ currently are the in-laws...

Ratman_tf · December 19, 2019, 12:08:28 AM

Out of all the ways I've seen to land a TIE fighter, that made the 2nd most sense.

(First is to have docking supports)

Lurkndog · December 20, 2019, 10:38:23 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1116919Out of all the ways I've seen to land a TIE fighter, that made the 2nd most sense.

(First is to have docking supports)

I don't see why you wouldn't just land it on the lower edge of the panels. Making them strong enough to hold the weight would have to be more efficient than building in separate folding landing gear, and the mechanism to fold the wings. That's what we saw in Star Wars: Rebels.

Or, heck, just leave it hovering. If repulsor lift tech is cheap enough to build into a baby carriage and a primitive cart, why not?

Ratman_tf · December 20, 2019, 10:53:36 PM

Quote from: Lurkndog;1117148I don't see why you wouldn't just land it on the lower edge of the panels. Making them strong enough to hold the weight would have to be more efficient than building in separate folding landing gear, and the mechanism to fold the wings. That's what we saw in Star Wars: Rebels.

Or, heck, just leave it hovering. If repulsor lift tech is cheap enough to build into a baby carriage and a primitive cart, why not?

Maybe, but there's a part of me that looks at a TIE resting on it's panels and thinking it's going to collapse. And the edges of the panels have no visible type of landing gear, pads, whatever. It just looks wrong.
As for repulsors, the pilot has to get out somehow. A floating TIE is pretty far off the ground. That's a long way to climb a folding ladder or whatever.

Lurkndog · December 20, 2019, 11:18:22 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1117149Maybe, but there's a part of me that looks at a TIE resting on it's panels and thinking it's going to collapse. And the edges of the panels have no visible type of landing gear, pads, whatever. It just looks wrong.

It does look odd, I'll give you that. Really, TIEs shouldn't land on planets, any more than the Starship Enterprise should. The shape of them is wrong for that. But if the plot demands it, landing on the panels is the simplest solution. And for what it's worth, it's how the toys worked.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1117149As for repulsors, the pilot has to get out somehow. A floating TIE is pretty far off the ground. That's a long way to climb a folding ladder or whatever.

Even modern day fighter planes require rolling ladders to get the pilots up into the cockpit. I'm pretty sure we saw something like that in Rebels as well.

Lurkndog · December 21, 2019, 11:31:15 AM

Spoilered for those who haven't seen episodes 5 and 7 yet:

Spoiler

So was Moff Gideon the Man in Black who shows up at the end of episode 5? The costume matches, but the sound effects don't.

Still, Ockham's Razor suggests it's the same character.

In which case, I guess Fennec Shand was working for him? Then why was she on the run?

And is Fennec Shand dead, or floating in a bacta tank somewhere?