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The Mandalorian Season 1

Started by Lurkndog, November 13, 2019, 12:25:24 PM

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Ratman_tf

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Quote from: HappyDaze;1115291In episode 4 we find out that the helmet comes off when not around others. This helps avoid the idiocy that arises if he never takes it off.

I imagined it was something like that.

This show continues to deliver. While I wouldn't want all of Star Wars to be like this show, I do think it's tapped into the Ronin/Western vibe that even the Prequels lost touch with.
Must as I liked Rogue One and Solo, this is the most "Star Wars" thing I've seen since... A New Hope.

The Mandalorian did more with a single AT-ST and a bunch of brigands than the sequels have tried to do with a wall of Walkers, huge ass fleets of starships, and lots of people running around:
Make me care about the conflict.

That's what's missing from the sequels, and Disney would do well to pay attention, instead of making lame-ass excuses.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/11/21/kathleen-kennedy-on-difficulty-of-making-star-wars-sequel-films-theres-no-source-material-we-dont-have-comic-books/
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Lurkndog

Couldn't agree with you more, Ratman. Episode 4 was another solid one. Directed by Bryce Dallas Howard, which is interesting.

I wondered why they didn't use Boba Fett, but now I think that decision makes sense. Our Mando is a lot more of a good guy at heart, and not using Boba Fett lets the show be its own thing. Also, the Razor Crest is way better than Slave 1.

Omega

Since it is supposed to be set after Return of the Jedi. Depending on if they are following only the movie or not. Fett is dead and thus could not be a character. If he is still alive as some novels and comics tried to claim. Then it might be too late to use him as the prequel movies in a way ruined the mystery of the character. Who knows. They might be saving him for later.

Warder

Ratman, i also liked episode 4 even if it was tropey and we have seen the 7 samurays/cowboys before. I still think its Pedro Pascal we will see under the helmet.

Boba Fett was stone cold, he would have shot the baby faster than the droid bounty hunter and still killed the droid. There would be no show.

One thing that i dont get are the tracking fobs. How do they keep track of baby yoda across the galaxy? Is it emitting a signal thats tracable? If it had a chip under its skin then the Mandalorian would cut it out or would bring it somewhere where it would be cut out. But no, there is no indication of that.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Warder;1115407One thing that i dont get are the tracking fobs. How do they keep track of baby yoda across the galaxy? Is it emitting a signal thats tracable? If it had a chip under its skin then the Mandalorian would cut it out or would bring it somewhere where it would be cut out. But no, there is no indication of that.

I don't know. I suspect they detect a specific life signature. Note that when the Mandalorian was given some kind of co-ordinates or additional info before starting to track a quarry, so the fobs probably have limited range. In which case, the hunter in this episode probably tracked Cara Dune or Mando's ships, or got info from one of the townspeople. (The first town)

Like most tech in Star Wars, it serves the story first. The details are secondary.
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Bruwulf

Yeah, the tracking fobs bother me.

I don't inherently mind the reboot/whatever you call it that Disney did, even if I think they discarded some of the best stuff along with some of the worst. But the new Disney Star Wars has this... I dunno, it's not even soft science fiction, it's melted science fiction. Star Wars was always soft science fiction, but it at least had this sort of veneer of attention to detail. They slapped enough rust colored paint and exposed wiring on everything that even if it was all stuff out of the old sci fi serials, tech wise, it "felt good", if that makes any sense. It doesn't feel that way to me anymore... The whole galaxy seems to be about 5 minutes from everywhere now, you can see lasers fired from one star system to another star system real time from yet a third star system, and now these little tracking fobs that seem to be able to just... know where someone is, somehow.

It seems like different directors have different tolerances for that... Rogue One seemed better than most of the Nu Star Wars, for example, about that. And I was really enjoying Mandarlorian, which, again, felt more... more like it kind of respected that even if this was all bullshit, you couldn't get too egregious with it, you know? But the tracking fobs do bother me.

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Lurkndog

The tracking fobs seem to only operate over a short range. Like if you can find out which city the target is in, they will allow you to close in on the person.

Clearly, Mando's expectation was that going to a remote planet would keep the bounty hunters off his back for a while.

It's not shown what they key in on. The ones we see in operation are for known criminals, and Baby Yoda. Both cases where the target was probably in custody somewhere at some point. It is possible the targets were injected with something like a swarm of low-powered nano-trackers that operate over short range, and are too small/numerous to simply remove. If so, they will probably quit working at some point.

Lurkndog

Quote from: Kiero;1115435I could take Rogue One, The Mandalorian, and pretend the rest of it never happened.

I liked Star Wars: Rebels also, though the final season went kind of deep into crazy Force magic.

Star Wars: Resistance, though, is pretty anemic, especially after watching The Mandalorian.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Lurkndog;1115612Clearly, Mando's expectation was that going to a remote planet would keep the bounty hunters off his back for a while.

Good observation. As long as we can reasonably infer the limitations of the tech, I don't have a huge problem with them not giving us a lecture on FOB technology.
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HappyDaze

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1115628Good observation. As long as we can reasonably infer the limitations of the tech, I don't have a huge problem with them not giving us a lecture on FOB technology.

That's where Disney's Star Wars has bitten me recently. Over the last few years, it has become very hard to reasonably infer the limitations of hyperdrives. For almost every Star Wars RPG, there's going to be a hyperdrive involved fairly regularly, and Disney doesn't care one fucking bit about making it seem consistent.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: HappyDaze;1115633That's where Disney's Star Wars has bitten me recently. Over the last few years, it has become very hard to reasonably infer the limitations of hyperdrives. For almost every Star Wars RPG, there's going to be a hyperdrive involved fairly regularly, and Disney doesn't care one fucking bit about making it seem consistent.

No argument here. But then, I tend to ignore the sequels, where the most egregeious examples are to be found. Unless I'm poking fun at how bad they are.
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HappyDaze

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1115636No argument here. But then, I tend to ignore the sequels, where the most egregeious examples are to be found. Unless I'm poking fun at how bad they are.

Yeah, but even Rogue One, which I generally regard as a good Star Wars film, had an in-atmosphere hyperspace jump with no time spent putting in calculations. I had at least one player mention that allowing such in a game would destroy every space-based chase scene.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: HappyDaze;1115638Yeah, but even Rogue One, which I generally regard as a good Star Wars film, had an in-atmosphere hyperspace jump with no time spent putting in calculations. I had at least one player mention that allowing such in a game would destroy every space-based chase scene.

Mmm. Yea. I hadn't remembered that part.
Interestingly, the same happened in Star Trek IV, with the Bird of Prey going to warp in atmosphere, disregarding the physics of pushing a starship though a dense atmosphere at faster than light speeds.
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HappyDaze

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1115640Interestingly, the same happened in Star Trek IV, with the Bird of Prey going to warp in atmosphere, disregarding the physics of pushing a starship though a dense atmosphere at faster than light speeds.

"Hurray, we're off to save the planet! <<>> Oh... never mind then."