...was a very good movie.

Your thoughts?

I'm sad that I'm broke, and am thus going to miss it in theaters.  

I have similar feelings about the next Pirates.

Quote from: fonkaygarry...was a very good movie.

I'll probably see it tonight. But a quick question before: How many minutes do I have to suffer through Kirsten Dunst destroying MJ?

Quote from: fonkaygarry...was a very good movie.

Your thoughts?

Uh, it wasn't so good. The dialogue and plot were heavy-handed, there wasn't a lot of action, and a lot was crammed into two and a half hours.

Seanchai

Quote from: Seanchai...there wasn't a lot of action, and a lot was crammed into two and a half hours.

I grew very leery when I saw how many villains they were cramming into a single film.  Didn't they learn their lesson from Batman Forever and Batman & Robin?  I'll wait for the DVD.

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Quote from: fonkaygarry...was a very good movie.

Your thoughts?

It's the worst piece of shit I've seen since The Ghost Rider. No kidding. It's awful, from the start to the very end.

Quote from: ImperatorIt's the worst piece of shit I've seen since The Ghost Rider.

Wait, wait.  "The Ghost Rider" has already come and gone?  When did that happen?  

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Quote from: Ian AbsentiaWait, wait.  "The Ghost Rider" has already come and gone?  When did that happen?  

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Spare yourself the pain. It's a smoking turd of a movie.

Yup, worse than the original Daredevil version. And hey, I'm the one who really like the Punisher movie...

I don't read a lot of comics, but due to a thread on Other Media at rpg.net, I have to ask:

Do his pajamas actually turn into a cosmic parasite and try to eat him?  Because that's what posters keep telling me the villain is supposed to be, and I still can't quite believe it.

Quote from: RedFoxI don't read a lot of comics, but due to a thread on Other Media at rpg.net, I have to ask:

Do his pajamas actually turn into a cosmic parasite and try to eat him?  Because that's what posters keep telling me the villain is supposed to be, and I still can't quite believe it.

I haven't seen the movie, but in the comics, that was what happened.

Actually, it was a whole new suit: during the Secret Wars, Spidey and a bunch of other Marvel heroes and villains (along with some chunks of real estate) weretransported from Earth to an alien world, courtesy of The Beyonder, to fight each other.  (C'mon, it's comics.)  During the ensuing bust-up, Spider-Man's suit got torn up; seeking a replacement, he ended up finding some kinda weird-ass alien glob in a lab somewhere amidst all the aforementioned real estate.  It hopped on him and turned into a suit.

Later, back on Earth, it went loco and then Venom happened and then Carnage but by then it wasn't 1985 anymore so I don't care much.

IIRC, Spidey had to get help from the Fantastic Four to get the suit off. Sadly I have to say that while Spider-Man is a decent character, most of his villains are pretty stupid. At least they didn't include Kraven in the new movie, did they?

Points:

1.  No Kraven.
 
2.  The black suit is an extraterrestrial parasite (which I think was the origin used the cartoon.)

3.  There is both a musical "walking down the street" scene and a dance number.

4.  Kirsten Dunst is crying, about to cry or making Peter cry in 80% of her scenes.

And I fuckin' love it.

EDIT:  The only Spiderman comic I've read since puberty has been Spiderman Loves Mary Jane, so my tastes might be different from the usual.

Okay, today I actually went to see it. Not that impressed. Kirsten Dunst was even more mopey than I ever thought of. Parker's stint as Emo-Travolta was funny at first, but quickly got tiring. I thought he'd grow a goatee any minute. Yes, it's a comic, but silliness is a dangerous and slippery road...
Also, too many enemies. And those had their problems. Sandman was Sandman for roughly one fight scene, the rest he was either Imhotep or King Kong. Venom came a bit too lately -- and I'm not too impressed with Foreman...

I can understand Raimi's problems. Compared to other superheroes, Spidey never was that epic. He had a number of conflict with small-time super-crooks and the rest of the time he has problems like anyone else. This doesn't exactly translate well to the big screen. Maybe once technology is advanced enough for us to get that degree of SFX in a TV series...

Two things remain: Kudos to James Franco. Give that boy a decent movie of his own, please. And secondly: I love you, Ursula Ditkovitch.

I thought it was a generally bad film, but then I'm a long time Spidey fan - easily my favorite hero.

The short version is that there is too much stuff going on in the movie and so there's no proper development of anything.  In the previous movies you really understood the villains and everything that was going on.  Here the symbiont falls out of the sky next to Peter and Sandman accidentally steps into some sort of giant particle scattering field or something.

On a character development level, the "I am bad" was fun at first but it drug on way too long.  By the time he was exploiting the girl next door for cookies I was really tired of it - it was just such petty evil.  I'd really have preferred seeing him "go too far" with a common robber or something instead.

On a comic book level I'm very sad that Spider-Man doesn't use his intellect to solve problems - that was the standard way to do it in the comics.  When he went to Harry I was sure he was going to say something like "I need you to go to your father's lab and get me these five things to help defeat Sandman/Venom."  Nope.

That the movie has no real resolution made everything even worse for me.  Sandman, a terrorist and murderer, is allowed to go his merry way.  I suppose it makes some sense, as he was clearly undefeatable in the film.

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