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Shin Godzilla

Started by Schwartzwald, August 10, 2017, 12:22:44 AM

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Schwartzwald

I'd plug a new DVD called "shin Godzilla" here. In Japanese the term shin (prounced sheen) means "real" or "true".

It is not your dad's Godzilla movie.

The movie is actually like good sf. It allows one impossible thing, Godzilla, then tries to show a realistic and believable picture of how it affects the world and how people react to it.

The movie is less about Godzilla's actions, and Godzilla is pure monster, a walking disaster, and almost all about how a modern society in the real world would react to it. While a 400' tall monster is stomping tokyo, thousands are  dead, hundreds of thousands are suddenly fleeing, homeless, having lost everything, a couple high government officials are talking about how it affects the stock market and that the economic damage could cause Japan to default on its national debt.

It takes hours from Godzilla's arrival to order the Japanese military to engage it, as under the Japanese constitution the military is severely restricted in what it can do and obviously a situation like this wasn't covered when it was written.

Also part of the decision to attack Godzilla is based on the Japanese not wanting to appear weak to the world.

It has a lot more intelligent, believable talk than action and even some science, glossing over the physical impossibility of Godzilla existing g, accepting it as a given and dealing with it.

The CGI was good, not up to "avatar" standards but good enough!

Frankly I'd say this movie was easier to accept in terms of believability than something like "fate of the furious" with guys in hot rods fighting a Russian submarine on an ice field and someone leaning out of a car to kick a torpedo that was skidding across the use. It was a relatively realistic Godzilla movie sand some people won't like it but if you like intelligent movies with intelligent people having intelligent discussions and making intelligent deciscions this may be for you.

jeff37923

Quote from: Schwartzwald;981599I'd plug a new DVD called "shin Godzilla" here. In Japanese the term shin (prounced sheen) means "real" or "true".

It is not your dad's Godzilla movie.

The movie is actually like good sf. It allows one impossible thing, Godzilla, then tries to show a realistic and believable picture of how it affects the world and how people react to it.

The movie is less about Godzilla's actions, and Godzilla is pure monster, a walking disaster, and almost all about how a modern society in the real world would react to it. While a 400' tall monster is stomping tokyo, thousands are  dead, hundreds of thousands are suddenly fleeing, homeless, having lost everything, a couple high government officials are talking about how it affects the stock market and that the economic damage could cause Japan to default on its national debt.

It takes hours from Godzilla's arrival to order the Japanese military to engage it, as under the Japanese constitution the military is severely restricted in what it can do and obviously a situation like this wasn't covered when it was written.

Also part of the decision to attack Godzilla is based on the Japanese not wanting to appear weak to the world.

It has a lot more intelligent, believable talk than action and even some science, glossing over the physical impossibility of Godzilla existing g, accepting it as a given and dealing with it.

The CGI was good, not up to "avatar" standards but good enough!

Frankly I'd say this movie was easier to accept in terms of believability than something like "fate of the furious" with guys in hot rods fighting a Russian submarine on an ice field and someone leaning out of a car to kick a torpedo that was skidding across the use. It was a relatively realistic Godzilla movie sand some people won't like it but if you like intelligent movies with intelligent people having intelligent discussions and making intelligent deciscions this may be for you.

I was not interested before, but I am definitely interested now. Thank you!
"Meh."

Schwartzwald

Check this out. https://www.cnet.com/news/shin-godzilla-is-the-dunkirk-of-godzilla-movies/

You'll really need to watch it a couple times to get all the details. Also you need to know tbat in Japanese culture when someone disappears and leaves their shoes neatly placed side by side it is often a sign of suicide. That is significant.

Dumarest

I'll stick with classic Godzilla.  Attempts to make this stuff "realistic" make me wince  with embarrassment for the people who made it.

Spinachcat

I love giant monster flicks (saw Kong: Skull Island three times in the theater) and this new Godzilla sounds very interesting. I am good with the realistic angle simply because its a different approach.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;981599Frankly I'd say this movie was easier to accept in terms of believability than something like "fate of the furious" with guys in hot rods fighting a Russian submarine on an ice field and someone leaning out of a car to kick a torpedo that was skidding across the use.

I loved that scene, but I am a fan of the Feng Shui RPG.

Schwartzwald

#5
The only thing to be embarrassed about is condemning a movie without seeing it. It's not perfect but it shows a believable image of a government and people in it trying to deal with an incredible and unprecedented threat.

Also with the spate of pseudo libertarian movies portraying government as incompetent and evil and the world being  saved by entrepreneurs and amti gogernment types it was a nice change of pace.