Yep, you two got it right.....I remember saying at least twice in early part of the thread that this event had nothing to do with politics.
 Think I gave up on the discussion half a page after that.

Sometimes politics has no connection to an event.


- Ed C.

Nicely said Jeff.

Quote from: jeff37923;235554Jackalope, NotYourMonkey, Kyle Aaron, all three of you were called out by me when this incident in my city happened that you all were using a tragic event to push an agenda of liberal hate. You three pushed that agenda regardless of the information presented (that the shooter had an ex-wife who went to the church, that the shooter had a history of violent mental problems, etc.) because it was more important to get the message out that this was all the fault of those you do not like politically.

So, its been over two weeks now, we got it. The three of you redefine the term "fuckwit". Congrats.

Winner.

Quote from: jeff37923;235554Jackalope, NotYourMonkey, Kyle Aaron, all three of you were called out by me when this incident in my city happened that you all were using a tragic event to push an agenda of liberal hate. You three pushed that agenda regardless of the information presented (that the shooter had an ex-wife who went to the church, that the shooter had a history of violent mental problems, etc.) because it was more important to get the message out that this was all the fault of those you do not like politically.

So, its been over two weeks now, we got it. The three of you redefine the term "fuckwit". Congrats.

One of the bright things about people who push that sort of agenda is that over time they become known for what they are.

Nicely said jeff37923

Quote from: Koltar;235573Yep, you two got it right.....I remember saying at least twice in early part of the thread that this event had nothing to do with politics.

A syllogism inspired by this post:

Kolter said this event had nothing to do with politics.
Koltar is a complete idiot.
Therefore this event may have had something to do with politics.

Quote from: jeff37923Jackalope, NotYourMonkey, Kyle Aaron, all three of you were called out by me when this incident in my city happened that you all were using a tragic event to push an agenda of liberal hate. You three pushed that agenda regardless of the information presented (that the shooter had an ex-wife who went to the church, that the shooter had a history of violent mental problems, etc.) because it was more important to get the message out that this was all the fault of those you do not like politically.

You can take your little guilt trip and stick where the sun don't shine, son.

The very fact that you describe it as an "agenda of liberal hate" tells me that you don't want this to be about politics because you share this fuckwit murderer's politics.  Suck it up, nancyboy.  Your side spews hatred and calls on the righteous and moral to strike down their enemies.  That it takes a little but more than Ann Coulter -- poor mental health and bitter divorce -- to provoke violence isn't exactly a free pass on the hate-spewing that contributed to it.

You think Adkisson is the only right wing fuckwit bitter because his wife won't touch his dick anymore, and ready to blame liberals, gays, jews, and blacks for all his life's problems?  He's not, and your precious pundits are happy to make millions fueling those feelings of rage.

When you can prove that immersing himself in right-wing propoganda that promotes the worldview that all liberals are evil traitors out to destroy America  had NOTHING to do with him shooting up a liberal church and ranting about gay marriage, etc. then maybe I'll feel bad for pointing out that the right-wing hate machine is designed entirely to appeal to bitter, useless fucksticks like Adkisson.

Seriously Jeff, either explain how a four page letter ranting about the liberal movement, blacks and gays had NOTHING to do with the books full of ranting about the liberal movement, blacks and gays that he had in his car, or shut the fuck up.

I will not be made to feel guilty because some ignorant piece of shit redneck fuckwad doesn't want to look in the fucking mirror.

Quote from: Jackalope;235947A syllogism inspired by this post:

Kolter said this event had nothing to do with politics.
Koltar is a complete idiot.
Therefore this event may have had something to do with politics.



You can take your little guilt trip and stick where the sun don't shine, son.

The very fact that you describe it as an "agenda of liberal hate" tells me that you don't want this to be about politics because you share this fuckwit murderer's politics.  Suck it up, nancyboy.  Your side spews hatred and calls on the righteous and moral to strike down their enemies.  That it takes a little but more than Ann Coulter -- poor mental health and bitter divorce -- to provoke violence isn't exactly a free pass on the hate-spewing that contributed to it.

You think Adkisson is the only right wing fuckwit bitter because his wife won't touch his dick anymore, and ready to blame liberals, gays, jews, and blacks for all his life's problems?  He's not, and your precious pundits are happy to make millions fueling those feelings of rage.

When you can prove that immersing himself in right-wing propoganda that promotes the worldview that all liberals are evil traitors out to destroy America  had NOTHING to do with him shooting up a liberal church and ranting about gay marriage, etc. then maybe I'll feel bad for pointing out that the right-wing hate machine is designed entirely to appeal to bitter, useless fucksticks like Adkisson.

Seriously Jeff, either explain how a four page letter ranting about the liberal movement, blacks and gays had NOTHING to do with the books full of ranting about the liberal movement, blacks and gays that he had in his car, or shut the fuck up.

I will not be made to feel guilty because some ignorant piece of shit redneck fuckwad doesn't want to look in the fucking mirror.

Righteous lefty bigotry, righteously bitching about some other perceived bigotry. Priceless.

Quote from: CavScout;235979Righteous lefty bigotry, righteously bitching about some other perceived bigotry. Priceless.

Right-wing sophistry equating intolerance of the intolerance with general intolerance.

Liberal: "I hate people who target minority groups for victimization simply to gain power.  Anyone who supports that kind of behavior is seriously messed-up."
Right Wing Sophists: "See the liberal agenda of hate!  Bigots, all of them!"

The ability of right-wingers to delude themselves is truly amazing.

People arguing politics (on either side) as if they were fans of football teams is even more so!

Quote from: Jackalope;236062Right-wing sophistry equating intolerance of the intolerance with general intolerance.

Liberal: "I hate people who target minority groups for victimization simply to gain power.  Anyone who supports that kind of behavior is seriously messed-up."
Right Wing Sophists: "See the liberal agenda of hate!  Bigots, all of them!"

The ability of right-wingers to delude themselves is truly amazing.

I hate people who target minority groups for for victimization simply to gain power too. That's why I hate most Democrats.

Quote from: Jackalope;236062Right-wing sophistry equating intolerance of the intolerance with general intolerance.

Liberal: "I hate people who target minority groups for victimization simply to gain power.  Anyone who supports that kind of behavior is seriously messed-up."
Right Wing Sophists: "See the liberal agenda of hate!  Bigots, all of them!"

The ability of right-wingers to delude themselves is truly amazing.

Must be awsome to declare your intolerance the "good kind" and go on your merry way. It's kind of funny... I've never seen bigots actually think "their way" was wrong. They've all got excuses for why theirs is "right". Yours is no different.

Quote from: Werekoala;236078I hate people who target minority groups for for victimization simply to gain power too. That's why I hate most Democrats.

Jesus man, you righties sure come up with some truly lunatic shit.

Make me laugh.  Provide evidence of how the current, modern Democratic Party targets minority groups for victimization.  +100,000 points if you define extremely wealthy white men as a minority.

And do you right-wingers know any mode of argument OTHER than the Ad Hominem Tu Quoque?

Quote from: CavScout;236080Must be awsome to declare your intolerance the "good kind" and go on your merry way. It's kind of funny... I've never seen bigots actually think "their way" was wrong. They've all got excuses for why theirs is "right". Yours is no different.

Dude, it's is TOTALLY awesome.  I won't play Neville Chamberlain just because you'd prefer people ignore the right's slow drift towards fascism in the last few decades.  You're not going to convince me that looking the other way and politely ignoring imperialism, racism, sexism and homophobia as public policy is sound or wise.  No appeasement!

And you can take your moral relativism and shove it up your ass.  There is a meaningful difference between the righteous hatred good people feel for intolerance directed at the weak by the strong, and the hatred that weak members of majority groups direct at minority groups.  A normal person's hatred for Ku Klux Klan members is not comparable to that Klan member's hatred of blacks, no matter how much sophistry you engage in.

Quote from: Jackalope;236115Dude, it's is TOTALLY awesome.  I won't play Neville Chamberlain just because you'd prefer people ignore the right's slow drift towards fascism in the last few decades.  You're not going to convince me that looking the other way and politely ignoring imperialism, racism, sexism and homophobia as public policy is sound or wise.  No appeasement!

And you can take your moral relativism and shove it up your ass.  There is a meaningful difference between the righteous hatred good people feel for intolerance directed at the weak by the strong, and the hatred that weak members of majority groups direct at minority groups.  A normal person's hatred for Ku Klux Klan members is not comparable to that Klan member's hatred of blacks, no matter how much sophistry you engage in.

You are so cute! If you weren't so friggin full of shit you'd almost be tolerable.

You should have tossed in a Nazi reference for effect. I mean, really lay it on.

Quote from: Jackalope;236112Jesus man, you righties sure come up with some truly lunatic shit.

Make me laugh.  Provide evidence of how the current, modern Democratic Party targets minority groups for victimization.  +100,000 points if you define extremely wealthy white men as a minority.

And do you right-wingers know any mode of argument OTHER than the Ad Hominem Tu Quoque?

So you OK with "victimization" as long as it is not a minority group?

PS: The 'modern' Democratic Party victimizes minorities by proclaiming themselves the saviors of all minority woes and then promptly forgetting about them when in power.

I so glad the Democratic Party has advanced minorities in the government by placing them in real places of power, like the Supreme Court or Secretary of State... oh... what's that? Oh, really? Shit, that was the evil Republican Party.....

Quote from: Werekoala;236078I hate people who target minority groups for for victimization simply to gain power too. That's why I hate most Democrats.

This is germane to the ongoing discussion in droog's Rolling Stone class article thread.

Regards,
David R