Quote from: jhkim;1115580The whole thread here seems to be about rumor-mongering. I don't support Libertad's ad-hominem attacks, but I also don't support spreading the rumors that started the thread.

Nobody forced you to click on a thread about RLM making guesses about a film.

QuoteI don't take advice from someone who uncritically links to a child porn supporter, and then backpedals when caught out.

We have hard evidence that the mainstream media uses incorrect footage. I would go so far as to say it's a blatant lie. A stark contrast to your "maybe, sorta, coulda" insinuations.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1115573That just blows this complaint-



-out of the water. Since the "sexualized children" are not only fictional, but cartoons.

I can make similar defenses for all of the "points" Libertad is making, but it all boils down to guilt by association, and ad-hom attacks. "YOU LINKED TO A NAZI?!?!?!" and I'm not interested in playing his game. Only revealing it for what it is.

Either this is a major case of self-projection, or the RPG Site really does still have a "cool kids' club" for pedophilia. I thought Mythus Mage got banned for this or something? :confused:

Quote from: HappyDaze;1115511I see that you are a naysayer.

I mean, you say you've seen it, but do you actually have solid proof of it?

And yes, I'd ask Disney the same about the negative reviews if they had someone posting here.

Nothing recent as I stopped using IMDb when they axed the forums. But the recurring trend was they all sounded very similar, sometimes posted before the movie is even out by a day or two. oops! Or make statements that are demonstratably false.

Also seen companies manipulate Wikipedia to the point I stopped using that too. It was progressively becoming more of an advertising shill than a database. And said database is so fucked up I rarely bother checking it now.

Also I do not trust negative reviews either as with the push for outrage marketing if companies havent yet, they will soon have shills posting hate reviews.

This is the fucked up state of the entertainment industry.

God only knows what the next crackheaded marketing ploy fad will be. But it will somehow be worse.

Quote from: Libertad;1115522He referred to a Pokemon mod which turned a black anime characters' skin white as an "improvement to her character" so his racism isn't entirely mythical

But of course you leave out the main point he's trying to make.  The rest of that article goes on to say:

QuoteThe mod is already causing the typical sperglings to announce violence and discord as their only resolve to seeing Nessa turned into a pretty white girl, much in the same way that they did when Japanese artists depicted her with fair skin.

....snip (bunch of outraged Twitter nonsense)...

Where were all these people and their outrage when Triss Merigold, a redhead, was race-swapped in Netflix's The Witcher?

Where was the outrage when Catwoman and Jim Gordon were turned black in Matt Reeves' The Batman?

Where was the outrage when Poison Ivy was turned into a black lesbian in the Harley Quinn comic?

Where was the outrage when Captain Keyes was blackwashed for the upcoming Showtime Halo series?

Where was the outrage when Ariel had her Danish heritage erased to become a black American in the Little Mermaid reboot?

Exactly.

So yeah, he's illustrating leftist hypocrisy with sarcasm so thick it was dripping.

Quote from: Libertad;1115594Either this is a major case of self-projection, or the RPG Site really does still have a "cool kids' club" for pedophilia. I thought Mythus Mage got banned for this or something? :confused:

If you can't tell the difference between cartoons and real people, I don't think I can help you.

And protip, I do not represent therpgsite, or any other posters here. I only represent myself.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1115536So what? The vast majority of all humans prefer their own racial and ethnic groups. It's been that way since the dawn of time and isn't changing anytime soon. I live in LA. I know all about everybody hating everybody because of their skin color. And if they don't hate each other for different skin tones, there's plenty of other easy reasons, usually economics.
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I really don't think this is as true as you think. LA has racial issues. There are places that have racial hatred drawn on racial lines, there are places where people really don't care what you look like. And there are places where you have mild tension along racial or ethnic lines. I lived in the San Diego area as a kid and recall that. The racial issues there seemed pretty intense to me. But it is very different from other parts of the country. But whatever the case, I don't think it is something to encourage or have a lack of concern for. Hating someone for their skin color is a really stupid reason to hate someone.

In a futile attempt to put this thread back on track (eg Star Wars), despite having no emotional investment in it... I will say this: The spectacular failure of the Star Wars franchise thus far (at least the 'important' films, eg the new trilogy) is a direct result of Hollywood as a whole having a generally low opinion of writers and writing as an art. They are fireworks engineers at the heart of it, which is why films are so visually spectacular now, but as their emphasis is entirely on spectacle, they forget/ignore that people sit down for hours to hear a story.

So you get things like Benioff and Weiss of Game of Thrones thinking they were better than GRR Martin and utterly bolo'ing season 8 of Game of Thrones (and moving on to Star Wars in a rush, at that...), and you get the utter shit show of The Last Jedi, where the only important thing apparently was 'subverting expectations', so you get random pointless side quests that take up 45 godddamn minutes and accomplish nothing, you get world breaking plot twists (Hyperdrive Missiles!!!!!), you get feckless randomity like the assault on teh laser cannon on a Salt Planet, you get dead actors kept alive in teh film by Mary Poppins, and living actors killed off in the film in the most silly of ways.  There isn't a story there, just a random string of Spectacles, most of which truly subverted our expectations.

Conversely, this is why Marvel mostly got it right. They told stories, about characters, in a (mostly) coherent and cohesive shared setting.  They planned their plot arc and sub-plot arcs like a damn story, one involving their characters.

And this is why the 'side movies' have done alright for themselves. Because they are 'bottle episodes', usually involving known characters (solo, for all its failings in the box office, was an acceptable movie), or known events (The Death Star Plans), forcing the films to adhere to the basics of story structure... because the characters/plot devices had to reach a certain point by the end of the film, the point where we pick them up in the future, and their failings have been mostly of the sort (coherence/continuity) that can be ignored in a bottle story, if not wisely.

JJ Abrams can make an entertaining film when he is stealing the story beats from a better film, but his problem is obvious. His reliance on the Mystery Box concept shows his lack of understanding of the story. You can start with, and present, a Mystery Box to the audience, but eventually you will have to OPEN that damn box... and when you do, you... the story teller... better know what was in it.  He is so in love with his mystery box (note that his presentation on said box involves a box he has owned for years and never opened...)... that he doesn't want to know what is in it. He wants to be in the audience, if you will.


Disclaimer: I have not watched a single Star Wars property since I left the theater after seeing The Farce Awakens.  People tell me the Mandalorians is good, but the only thing anyone talks about is, functionally, Spectacle. Namely Baby Yoda.  Also, I hated the 'twee fangirlism' that was the EU mandalorian/celtic bullshit, so...

Quote from: Spike;1116648Disclaimer: I have not watched a single Star Wars property since I left the theater after seeing The Farce Awakens.  People tell me the Mandalorians is good, but the only thing anyone talks about is, functionally, Spectacle. Namely Baby Yoda.  Also, I hated the 'twee fangirlism' that was the EU mandalorian/celtic bullshit, so...

I reccomend The Mandalorian. The show has it's flaws*, but so far they've each been "bottle" episodes, following coherent storytelling structures. Jon Favreau of the first Iron Man film is the show runner.
The series heavily echoes spaghetti westerns and Samurai/Ronin films that originally inspired Star Wars. Hell, the whole setup is a blatant homage to Lone Wolf and Cub.

*espeically the heavy reliance on tracking devices to hurry the plot along. It's starting to get tiresome.

I dunno man... its almost become a thing unto itself that I DON'T watch any of hte new Star Wars. Until they unfuck themselves, why give them a thin dime?  I mean, yeah, I guess I could rationalize it by saying 'reward the good behavior, punish the bad', but since they are still actively engaged in shitting the bed, any reward seems misplaced, yanno?


Though I do lurve me some Lone Wolf and Cub...  I got like four of those little pocket manga things on my bookshelf right now...

I have completly lost interest in star Wars. Anything you like about the Mandalorian can be destroyed when the next head dislikes it, or when his spunky better then him daughter pops up.

And I just don't give a **&W@ about these pointless side stories with no creativity.

Make something new. Aesthetically, conceptually, or anything! Don't give the Disney monopoly money for luxury goods you morons.

Quote from: Spike;1116648People tell me the Mandalorians is good, but the only thing anyone talks about is, functionally, Spectacle. Namely Baby Yoda.  Also, I hated the 'twee fangirlism' that was the EU mandalorian/celtic bullshit, so...

  Which Mandalorians? There's Karen Traviss's (the only old Star Wars EU writer I ever deliberately boycotted), the Clone Wars, KOTOR, and now apparently the new canon.  

  I haven't watched any of the Mandalorian due to a dislike of streaming services, a distrust of modern Disney both in general and on Star Wars in particular, and a lack of interest in the 'fringe' of the Star Wars galaxy. Besides, as someone who disliked TLJ, I'm apparently not a Star Wars fan anymore (although when I admit that, I seem to get a "HOW DARE YOU ABANDON US!" from the supporters of the New Mouse Order. )

The Karen Travis's Mandalorian Stuff, if I had to bet money. The series of books where they were naked expies of some fantasy Celtic society or some shit. Dunno, I mostly got the gist from teh wookiepedia articles, and every single one made my brain hurt from the combination of stupid and twee fangirlism, which then bleeds into the rest of the Mandalorian stuff that came after.

As an aside I do find it hilarious that people keep claiming Star Wars is dead because there are no new stories to tell in it... after the gutted the EU and all the examples of new (if not necessarily good... but that's the weird thing about stories... a good writer can make a bad story great, but a bad writer can fuck up pure gold... even bad canon can be rich and fulfilling in the right hands) stories set in the setting.

Its one of the more bizarre excuses for the dismal performance of the House of Mouse films that I've seen, honestly.

Quote from: Spike;1116684The Karen Travis's Mandalorian Stuff, if I had to bet money. The series of books where they were naked expies of some fantasy Celtic society or some shit. Dunno, I mostly got the gist from teh wookiepedia articles, and every single one made my brain hurt from the combination of stupid and twee fangirlism, which then bleeds into the rest of the Mandalorian stuff that came after.

As an aside I do find it hilarious that people keep claiming Star Wars is dead because there are no new stories to tell in it... after the gutted the EU and all the examples of new (if not necessarily good... but that's the weird thing about stories... a good writer can make a bad story great, but a bad writer can fuck up pure gold... even bad canon can be rich and fulfilling in the right hands) stories set in the setting.

Its one of the more bizarre excuses for the dismal performance of the House of Mouse films that I've seen, honestly.

It's an especially bad defense because George Lucas created Star Wars out of various sources in the very beginning. Flash Gordon, Akira Kurosawa flicks, WWII films, spaghetti westerns. That admission by Kathleen Kennedy that "There's no sources", is particularly damning that she has no goddamn clue what Star Wars was about.

I can think of literally zero reasons I would ever consider watching this pile of garbage. TLJ was unbearable, haven't watched anything SW since then; I disliked it so much it's retroactively reduced my enjoyment of the originals.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*breathe*

Looks like the spoilers are true. They brought the Emperor back.

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