Disney doesnt have to work hard for easy consumerism. The mandelorian is ok. And with lowered expectations ok is divine.

I had fun seeing RoS.  

I swore fairly loudly at the end of The Last Jedi, and count myself among the haters of that movie.   I didn't swear loudly during the new movie.

There were some Star Wars tech bits that annoyed me, but overall I liked it.

Hopefully, that's the last we hear of Reysus H. Tapdancing.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1117370The House of Mouse doesn't care a whit about this movie's box office. It will do a billion worldwide by March 2020, and then sit on Disney+ ensuring families cough up the $144/year for access to the Mouse.

And the Mandalorian's success proves you don't need to make Star Wars films anymore. They can make TV series, lock them down via Disney+ and milk the audience monthly...forever.

[insert the Emperor's laugh]

You are overlooking the possibility of Disney doing a Star Wars streaming TV series with a feature film as the beginning or end of that series.

Quote from: jeff37923;1117402You are overlooking the possibility of Disney doing a Star Wars streaming TV series with a feature film as the beginning or end of that series.

I think it's likely The Mandalorian is setting up the franchise to be taken over by ex-Marvel writers and producers. After a few years for people to put the sequel trilogy behind them, they'll start up the standalone movies again.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1117407I think it's likely The Mandalorian is setting up the franchise to be taken over by ex-Marvel writers and producers. After a few years for people to put the sequel trilogy behind them, they'll start up the standalone movies again.

I'm hoping they build a core story development group like what Marvel has for its movies. They already have some of the makings of this with their Story Group, which tracks continuity after the fact across the franchise, but doesn't AFAIK play a role in movie development. Basically, they need people to do the deep background development work that nobody did for the sequel trilogy. And to say things like "No, Luke's central trait is that he is grounded, highly ethical, and a good judge of character. He believed that even Darth Vader could be redeemed. He's not the guy who's going to flake out and try to murder his own nephew. He is literally the opposite of that."

Well I've seen it. No time travel, but man what a wreck.

I watched a... digital version of the movie. It was bad enough that I stopped in the middle of the movie and just went to bed. I finished it up the next day. It didn't really get any better.

The cast is great, and the effects are fairly impressive. Just think what they might have done with a script.

Watched it. Enjoyed it. No time travel plot

Think if you didn't like Force Awakens, you will not enjoy this installment either. If you liked the Last Jedi with enthusiasm, you will not like this installment. If you were middle of the road on or didn't like Last Jedi, there is a reasonable chance you will like this one (but it may be trying to do too much work because it kind of makes up for some of the changes Last Jedi introduced). I had fun. I will need to see it once or twice more to really weigh in on how well it is made. But there were emotional beats that worked really well for me and reminded me of my feelings watching the first trilogy. Some of the action was a little too chaotic for my old brain. But on the whole had fun. My seat rumbled for some reason, and that bothered me. The young people in the theater needed to be spanked. Tickets were way too expensive.

Psychotic fans threaten to kill JJ Abrams over the death of Kylo Ren.

Oh for fucks sake. What a bunch of fucktards.

Yes they are, and I am loving it

Quite a few rumors floating around JJ Abrams, Lucasfilm, Disney and Lucas.

[video=youtube;VXArqIvHMxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXArqIvHMxA[/youtube]

Wow, if half of that is true, Disney was really flailing. Of course, it is entirely possible that none of it is true.

I'm not sure that I believe that they were making major changes to the film in November. Unless they were simply cutting stuff out to get the run time down.

Quote from: Lurkndog;1118043Wow, if half of that is true, Disney was really flailing. Of course, it is entirely possible that none of it is true.

I'm not sure that I believe that they were making major changes to the film in November. Unless they were simply cutting stuff out to get the run time down.

I am sure the studio meddled, because in a big global release like this, that is going to happen. But I saw so many rumors from anonymous insiders on places like reddit this year, I'd take this with a massive, massive dose of salt (like the video suggests). I am sure we will start hearing more about the inner details of production in the coming years

Greetings!

All of the back and forth wrangling, all the contrasting "visions" of what the film should be--*shrugs* Fuck 'em all. They are all swallowed up in SJWisms and general incompetence. This whole franchise has been boiled down to a mediocre pile of shit.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

It's a fiction that there is ANY version of this film that could have been worthwhile.  They wanted to reset the Star Wars Universe in Episode 7 so it's exactly like Episode 4, 5, 6 didn't happen.  Or worse, the triumphs we celebrated were ultimately meaningless and set the stage for bigger problems.  If that's the story they wanted to tell, they still didn't need to 'reset' everything.  

The sequel trilogy isn't grounded in the world established by the original trilogy.  People will enjoy a film that looks good (see Transformers) but a film that doesn't hold true to the world will never become part of our cultural collective unconscious.  Poe Dameron will never achieve a place in people's minds like Han Solo did; not even Chewbacca levels of resonance.  And I think that that's a shame because it was pretty clear that fans were willing to welcome a real sequel 4 decades after the original release of Star Wars.  

A bad Star Wars trilogy can rake in a few billion dollars - we learned that with the prequels.  But a good Star Wars Trilogy could have done so much more.