Dude, 300 posts devoted to discussing about another website. This never ceases to amaze me.

The question is not about Tangency Open's popularity, but whether it is good for the roleplaying part of the site. I didn't say that people didn't like Tangency Open. I just said that it had nothing to do with roleplaying, and that its existence and support detracted from roleplaying discussion on rpg.net.

If they started a h4wt b1tch3s pixx subforum, it would undoubtedly be extremely popular; but it would not, I think, really help the forums have more interesting rpg discussions. It would grow to be the single largest subforum, and strain the vbulletin software, leading to occasional forum crashes. Posters' conduct in that subforum would lead to the moderators bringing out new rules and procedures to deal with it all. Cliques would develop. The tone of the subforum, and the stifling nature of the moderators' conduct, would put off many people from posting in other subforums. The h4wt b1tch3s pixx subforum, its purpose utterly unrelated to roleplaying games, would thus act as a cancer on rpg.net.

Just like Tangency Open.

As for Other Games Open, Other Media and so on - those don't detract from roleplaying discussion, but complement it. So when Pirates of the Caribbean 8 comes out, they discuss it in Other Media, then wander off to discuss making it into an rpg session in Roleplaying Open.

It's just a matter of deciding what your website is for. You'd think that rpg.net was about....?

Quote from: ImperatorDude, 300 posts devoted to discussing about another website. This never ceases to amaze me.

I always imagine it as a collection of Russian ex-patriates in turn-of-the-century Paris ... with the lovely little tables on the Champs-Elysee, and the coffee shops that sold both croissants and pierogis.  In that context the endless discussions of what should be done back in the old country are poignant and touching.

Quote from: TonyLBI always imagine it as a collection of Russian ex-patriates in turn-of-the-century Paris ... with the lovely little tables on the Champs-Elysee, and the coffee shops that sold both croissants and pierogis.  In that context the endless discussions of what should be done back in the old country are poignant and touching.

that does give a nice continental flavor to it.

d'oh!  there i go contributing to this exercise.  at least it's finally in OT :rolleyes:

it is somewhat entertaining to read, tho

Quote from: TonyLBI always imagine it as a collection of Russian ex-patriates in turn-of-the-century Paris ... with the lovely little tables on the Champs-Elysee, and the coffee shops that sold both croissants and pierogis.  In that context the endless discussions of what should be done back in the old country are poignant and touching.

Nice image.

Anyway, it gets very tiresome.

Quote from: ImperatorNice image.

Anyway, it gets very tiresome.

then ignore the thread?

Quote from: NYTFLYRthen ignore the thread?

You may have realized that's exactly what I've been doing. Now I've dropped by to state my opinion. So what?

Quote from: ImperatorYou may have realized that's exactly what I've been doing. Now I've dropped by to state my opinion. So what?

and yet here you are...

Yes. So what?

Quote from: ImperatorYes. So what?

thats four posts to a thread you think is tiresome...

Yep. And I feel that they are more useful than whining about some godforsaken messageboard.

Quote from: ImperatorYep. And I feel that they are more useful than whining about some godforsaken messageboard.

so why is it a godforsaken messageboard?

Quote from: PseudoephedrineYou're still talking in cliches and blabbing as if there was a common basis of opinion here. No one else here is sympathetic to those cliches or that blabbing. Make a point, illustrate it with examples and support it with arguments. Don't make up statistics or assume a spurious authority. Take care in phrasing what you say so that you mean what you say. You've just completely undermined your own position by your adherence to shallow ways of thinking.

I'm saying what I mean - the vast majority of people, who I can remember posting on RPG.net, who bitch about the modding there, are full of shit.  In that, their own actions have as much, if not more, to do with why they were banned/sanctioned that any "modclique" or "groupthink" or what have you.

Most internet forums I frequent have far more strict moderation than RPG.net  Any contradiction of mod decree is instantly and permanently banned.  RPG.net will often give you warnings, at least, and other than very extreme circumstances, will give you enough rope to hang yourself with, or untie the noose you've painted yourself into.

In a membership base as large as RPG.net's, there needs to be some element of moderation.  Some control.  Theres a mechanism for voicing dissent with mod decisions, if they are kept tactful and/or respectful.  Even superficially.  I know of few other sites that encourage members to openly criticize or disagree with mod rulings, even to the point of having an entire subfora for the express purpose.  It rings hollow.  I don't doubt there are issues - there almost certainly are.  And legit ones.

But, again, they are relatively few and far between, in my eyes.

Quote from: JimBobOzThe question is not about Tangency Open's popularity, but whether it is good for the roleplaying part of the site. I didn't say that people didn't like Tangency Open. I just said that it had nothing to do with roleplaying, and that its existence and support detracted from roleplaying discussion on rpg.net.

If they started a h4wt b1tch3s pixx subforum, it would undoubtedly be extremely popular; but it would not, I think, really help the forums have more interesting rpg discussions. It would grow to be the single largest subforum, and strain the vbulletin software, leading to occasional forum crashes. Posters' conduct in that subforum would lead to the moderators bringing out new rules and procedures to deal with it all. Cliques would develop. The tone of the subforum, and the stifling nature of the moderators' conduct, would put off many people from posting in other subforums. The h4wt b1tch3s pixx subforum, its purpose utterly unrelated to roleplaying games, would thus act as a cancer on rpg.net.

Just like Tangency Open.

As for Other Games Open, Other Media and so on - those don't detract from roleplaying discussion, but complement it. So when Pirates of the Caribbean 8 comes out, they discuss it in Other Media, then wander off to discuss making it into an rpg session in Roleplaying Open.

It's just a matter of deciding what your website is for. You'd think that rpg.net was about....?

Have you ever been to a website that didn't have an off-topic subforum?

Quote from: HackmastergeneralHave you ever been to a website that didn't have an off-topic subforum?

But one where the off-topic subforum is, effectively, the primary forum?  When the subforum eclipses the main forum, it's time to change your mission statement and your name.

!i!