Does england have laws forbidding "hate speech" on websites and if so who would one contact regarding such?
Not specifically as far as I'm aware. There are laws against inciting racial violence and the like which could probably be applied online, but it would likely be a high publicity trial and I'm not aware of anyone doing so so far.
is this request in relation to anything specific?
The Great White Records site and BNP are both British sites hosted in England. But neither of them are anywhere near as racist as some of the stuff in the states.
Quote from: Lawbagis this request in relation to anything specific?
Nothing to do with this site....
Quote from: Dominus NoxNothing to do with this site....
I didnt expect it was.
But does this question relate to
an in-game issues/question,
an RPG
or the real world?
Quote from: LawbagI didnt expect it was.
But does this question relate to
an in-game issues/question,
an RPG
or the real world?[/QUOTE
No comment.
Aaaah. Pleading the fifth there I think. If you remember a while back, Dominus made a couple of comments about how the Klan are actually fine upstanding members of the community.
You wouldn't be looking for a new place to host a site would you Dom?
Quote from: Mr. AnalyticalAaaah. Pleading the fifth there I think. If you remember a while back, Dominus made a couple of comments about how the Klan are actually fine upstanding members of the community.
You wouldn't be looking for a new place to host a site would you Dom?
Since when thr fuck did I ever say that ther KKK were "Fine upstanding members of the community"?
I said I respected them more than the PC crowd who decries "racism" and "prejudice" and "discrimination" and "hate" out of one side of their mouths while practicing all of the above against people they deemto be acceptable targets of such abuse, like overweight people, rednecks, nerds, geeks, etc.
I said that the KKK was less hypocritical and more honest than the hollywood types, which they are. I said that they had the courage to hate who they choose for the reason they choose instead of hating those who were deemed 'safe targets' by the PC zeitsmode like the PC hollywood types.
I never said the KKK was "fine upstanding members of the community", I said they were less odious than the PC hypocrites which is not saying that the kkk are fine upstanding members of the community, it's just saying they're morally superior to the hollywood hypocrites.
When making remarks about me, try to get your facts straight or keep your mouth shut.
Quote from: Dominus NoxWhen making remarks about me, try to get your facts straight or keep your mouth shut.
I notice you don't deny it though :D
Quote from: Mr. AnalyticalI notice you don't deny it though :D
Thank god for ILs.....
Quote from: Dominus NoxThank god for ILs.....
Irish Libertarians? :confused:
Quote from: Dominus NoxThank god for ILs.....
And STILL he doesn't deny it, the big mad racist :D
Quote from: Dominus NoxI never said the KKK was "fine upstanding members of the community", I said they were less odious than the PC hypocrites which is not saying that the kkk are fine upstanding members of the community, it's just saying they're morally superior to the hollywood hypocrites.
So hating a race, practicing murder, violence, intimidation against them for the colour of there skin is morally superior to being a bit hypocritical.... right. Is that one of Vampire 2nd Ed's Roads I'm not familair with your using as your scale of goodness?
Oh and as for laws in the UK...
whe do have laws against incitement to both racial and religious hatred now.
Sikhs and Jews were already covered by the racial hatred laws, but Christians, Muslims, etc. are now covered by the religious hatred ones.
The law got significantly watered down going through the Commons and Lords, to qualify under the law it has to contain "threating" words or behaviour, it's not enough just to be critical, abusive or insulting, and it has to be clear that your intent was to stir up hatred, you were just merely "reckless".
...and yet Stormfront is still around.
Quote from: BagpussSo hating a race, practicing murder, violence, intimidation against them for the colour of there skin is morally superior to being a bit hypocritical.... right.
Not to mention being such a coward about it as to go around in a white hood to escape owning up for your actions.
RPGPundit
Quote from: BagpussSo hating a race, practicing murder, violence, intimidation against them for the colour of there skin is morally superior to being a bit hypocritical.... right. Is that one of Vampire 2nd Ed's Roads I'm not familair with your using as your scale of goodness?
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I never played 2ed vampire, I quit during first ed.
And you're stereotyping an entire group based on the actions of a few. Most klansmen, like most muslims, are peaceful and just want to be left alone and not have their rights violated.
Only a few klansmen actually commit violent crimes, just like only a few muslims commit acts of terrorism. Klansmen have religious views that may seem offensive to others, but their right to hold those views should be respected just like we should respect the rights of muslims to hold their views even tho we may find many of them, like their oppression of women, offensive.
Yes, klansmen may have views that condemn other groups, but muslims hold views that likewise condemn many people, and if muslims rights to their views are to be respected then we should also respect the kkk's rights to hold their views.
Quote from: Dominus NoxI never played 2ed vampire, I quit during first ed.
And you're stereotyping an entire group based on the actions of a few. Most klansmen, like most muslims, are peaceful and just want to be left alone and not have their rights violated.
Only a few klansmen actually commit violent crimes, just like only a few muslims commit acts of terrorism. Klansmen have religious views that may seem offensive to others, but their right to hold those views should be respected just like we should respect the rights of muslims to hold their views even tho we may find many of them, like their oppression of women, offensive.
Yes, klansmen may have views that condemn other groups, but muslims hold views that likewise condemn many people, and if muslims rights to their views are to be respected then we should also respect the kkk's rights to hold their views.
You've got to be yanking my chain. You just compared a terrorist organization (and the Klan is a terrorist organization) to the world's fastest growing religion? Oh, Islam does have some venomous sects, but the KKK
is a venomous sect.
You make about as much sense as goofballs who compare the U.S.'s human rights abuses to those of Syria, no sense of scope in the real world.
-Zam
I just find it hilarious that he goes from ranting about Political Correctness to suggesting that it's unfair to discriminate against racists. Suggesting his problem isn't so much with PC per se, more that he wants to be on the inside of the tent pissing out.
It's political correctness gone mad I tells ya!
Quote from: zamielYou've got to be yanking my chain. You just compared a terrorist organization (and the Klan is a terrorist organization) to the world's fastest growing religion? Oh, Islam does have some venomous sects, but the KKK is a venomous sect.
You make about as much sense as goofballs who compare the U.S.'s human rights abuses to those of Syria, no sense of scope in the real world.
-Zam
Nope, I'm just taking the usual argument of these muslim apologists applying it to another group.
Quote from: Dominus NoxNope, I'm just taking the usual argument of these muslim apologists applying it to another group.
Muslim apologists? What an ignorant term to use. Islam covers around a billion people, and you're talking like there's a hive mind. Quick, find Queen Muslim and the whole of Islam will die.
-Zam
I had no idea such neandethals still existed.
Jesus was a black man you know...
Huh. And all this time I thought he was an Aramaic Jew. :)
Sorry, it was just a cheap shot at the OP. :o
Quote from: fonkaygarryHuh. And all this time I thought he was an Aramaic Jew. :)
I knew it man... I fucking knew it! The jews and the niggers are working together! Quick! Quick! outsource the website to the UK!
Yarr, to say that the KKK be just "regular folks" the way Muslims are "regular folks" be a wrong comparison, by thunder!
The right comparison be that saying the KKK be just "regular folks" be like ye were saing AL-QAEDA be just "regular folks".
In other words, sheer bollocks the likes of which ye should be keelhauled fer even suggesting it!
YARRRPGPundit
I don't think we keelhaul folks anymore, we don't even hang them from the yard arm. :(
Is it talk like a pirate day or has Pundit had a nervous breakdown?
I think the KKK and Al Qaeda are a reasonable comparisson except for the fact that Al Qaeda actually go out and do stuff whereas the KKK just sit on their arses drinking moonshine and talking about how the US has gone to hell ever since Kennedy came to power.
If Dominus is anything to go by, if Al Qaeda really were like the KKK then the WTC would still be standing and every web forum in the world would be full of guys bleating about how hard done by terrorists are.
Quote from: BagpussI don't think we keelhaul folks anymore, we don't even hang them from the yard arm. :(
I think we do if they commit treason or set fire to a dockyard in time of war. But yeah, having watched the Hornblower films recently (warmly recommended BTW, bloody good fun), discipline in her maj's navy has become a little bit liberal.
YARR, ye swarthy landlubber, indeed it be "talk like a pirate day"!!
:jollyroger:
Fer another three minutes, till the bosun calls high twelve.
:emot-sigh:
YARRRPGPundit
Quote from: BagpussI don't think we keelhaul folks anymore, we don't even hang them from the yard arm. :(
A pity.I'd love to see Noxy take a dip in the briny.
Quote from: Mr. AnalyticalI think we do if they commit treason or set fire to a dockyard in time of war. But yeah, having watched the Hornblower films recently (warmly recommended BTW, bloody good fun), discipline in her maj's navy has become a little bit liberal.
Sadly I fear the current administration abolished those laws, so we don't even execute people for insulting the queen anymore.
What? Buncha pansies.
Quote from: BalbinusSadly I fear the current administration abolished those laws, so we don't even execute people for insulting the queen anymore.
But feeling her up is a whole different story.