Quote from: Kellri;911041Of course. But true social justice often means going to an underdeveloped country or city and working your ass off in a relatively thankless, dangerous or just plain difficult job on behalf of people who cannot afford to pay for it. It has nothing at all to do with championing a particular cause online or harassing someone else for the same. It's the difference between say inserting oneself into a violent labor strike on behalf of the women who want an extra $1 a day so their kids can go to school and inserting oneself into an online argument about body shaming between two comfortable cunts on a gaming forum. True social justice is hard work. And not many people are really prepared for that. They might like to think they are - but when it comes right down to it, they're happier just imagining making a difference.

I think the term you are looking for is slacktivism.

Quote from: yosemitemike;911032No it isn't.  It's called being a doormat.

Well, if you combine this with seeing every contrary statement as an attack...

Quote from: Spinachcat;911037Yup, before the 00s, only white people watched TV, saw movies or read books. Those poor non-whites just sat around and stared at walls.

Thank the goddess for diversity!
 

It must have rocked to be an Asian American dude and find no one like you except for a Long Duk Dong, a chop socky stereotype, or some sexual pervert. It surely was awesome to see a low life criminal or a Mexican stereotype pretty much every time a latino came on screen.

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;911053It must have rocked to be an Asian American dude find no one like you except for a Long Duk Dong, a chop socky stereotype, or some sexual pervert. It surely was awesome to see a low life criminal or a Mexican stereotype pretty much every time a latino came on screen.

Pretty accurate.  

I can't personally relate to zero representation except for the media stereotypes of Texans.  I've lived here almost my whole life and never wore boots or that goddamned hat.  I don't have an accent, either.  

Not the same thing, I know...

Quote from: Spinachcat;911037Got my mosh pit tix for Black Sabbath's final US show!!

Damn, I'm Jealous!  I bought tickets but Vegas show but had to sell them due to work commitments.

Quote from: David Johansen;911008This is the part where I apologize for Canadian cuisine.  Including Tim Hortons after they went to parbaked donuts.

*waves from Calgary* I work in the bakery at Safeway and we don't use parbaked donuts... Yet... Well except for crullers. Don't get those. The others aren't too bad.

Quote from: yosemitemike;910700The statistics you cite mean exactly nothing.  Statistical disparities, by themselves, mean nothing.

Don't make the mistake of accepting his assumptions.  His statistics are bullshit not because of what they mean, but because they're bullshit on the face of it.  Cherry-picked and half-assed, collected by agenda-driven SJWs with no understanding (or more likely, desire) of how to define their terms, in the service of a predefined desired result.

SJWs always lie.  It's what they do.

I find this whole "Waaaah! White people aren't pandering to us enough!" whining deeply offensive.  If Dwayne McDuffie were still alive, he'd punch all of these wankers directly in the face.

Quote from: Krimson;911056*waves from Calgary* I work in the bakery at Safeway and we don't use parbaked donuts... Yet... Well except for crullers. Don't get those. The others aren't too bad.

*waves back from Lethbridge* Safeway's bakery is one thing that hasn't suffered from the merger with Sobeys.

Quote from: trechriron;910554There IS a way to do RPGs wrong.

NOT having fun. That's plainly wrong.

If a game or a situation or a ruling is NOT fun, you're doing it wrong. If you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong. If you're having fun, but everyone else is fucking miserable, you're doing it wrong. If everyone else is fucking pleased as chickens in a grain silo, but you feel like a chicken cooking in a missile silo, you're doing it WRONG. FUN = RIGHT (CORRECT). NOT FUN = WRONG (INCORRECT).

Easy. Breezy. Cover Girl.

The rest is just profundity or imprudence depending on our moods.

This.  

Quote from: daniel_ream;911064Don't make the mistake of accepting his assumptions.  His statistics are bullshit not because of what they mean, but because they're bullshit on the face of it.  Cherry-picked and half-assed, collected by agenda-driven SJWs with no understanding (or more likely, desire) of how to define their terms, in the service of a predefined desired result.

SJWs always lie.  It's what they do.

I find this whole "Waaaah! White people aren't pandering to us enough!" whining deeply offensive.  If Dwayne McDuffie were still alive, he'd punch all of these wankers directly in the face.

Do you mean SJWs in gaming? Or...?

All SJWs.

Quote from: daniel_ream;911064Don't make the mistake of accepting his assumptions.  His statistics are bullshit not because of what they mean, but because they're bullshit on the face of it.  Cherry-picked and half-assed, collected by agenda-driven SJWs with no understanding (or more likely, desire) of how to define their terms, in the service of a predefined desired result.

SJWs always lie.  It's what they do.

I find this whole "Waaaah! White people aren't pandering to us enough!" whining deeply offensive.  If Dwayne McDuffie were still alive, he'd punch all of these wankers directly in the face.

Quick question, where the flying fuck have you been the past 16 years?

This is hardly some obscure movement from tumblr. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/22/467665890/hollywood-has-a-major-diversity-problem-usc-study-finds. This is from the Annenberg school of Communication and Journalism at USC, the top ranked journalism school in the goddamn nation. It comprehensively covered 400 tv shows and movies released from August 2014 to September 2015.

"Just 3.4 percent of film directors were female, and only 7 percent of films had a cast whose balance of race and ethnicity reflected the country's diversity. In broadcast TV, 17 percent of directors were female and 19 percent of programs were ethnically balanced."

From the report proper:

"For the past 10 years, we have quantified disturbing patterns around the lack of media representation concerning females and people of color in film. Despite elevated awareness around this issue, the numbers have not budged."

"Female characters fill only 28.7% of all speaking roles in film."

"Second, at least half or more of all cinematic, television, or streaming stories fail to portray one speaking or named Asian or Asian American on screen."

Racially, leading roles drastically skew whiter: "Pivoting to leading characters in film, 21.8% were coded as underrepresented, which is 16.1% below U.S. Census. The distribution of characters was gendered, with 65.6% of underrepresented characters male and 34.4% female. Focusing only on leads, the vast majority were Black (65.6%). Only 12.5% of underrepresented leads were Latino and 6.3% were Asian. Roughly a sixth (15.6%) of all underrepresented leads were from “other” races or ethnicities."

But what do they know, they're just lyin' phd researchers who get paid by the government to trick good, hard working, white people into thinking they hold the majority of power.

Plus, all the times Hollywood casts white actors to play leading Latino roles. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-latinos-in-hollywood-20160227-story.html

Or the fact that in 2013, only 12% of leading protagonists in Film were women.  http://variety.com/2015/film/news/hollywood-feminism-womens-rights-sexism-1201610580/

"Yet it’s still not clear if executives in Hollywood are ready to adapt. Emma Thompson recently said that sexism is only getting worse in the moviemaking business. A-list actresses were often out of options for roles once they hit 40, but now even women in their 30s are starting to feel pressure. Liv Tyler told More magazine that at 38, the only parts she’s getting offered are as “the wife or a girlfriend.” Maggie Gyllenhaal, 37, caused a ruckus earlier this year when she revealed that she was deemed too old to play the love interest to a 55-year-old man. Anne Hathaway, 32, echoed the trend in an interview with Glamour: “I’m like, ‘Why did that 24-year-old get that part?’ ”

This isn't "pandering". This is challenging a system which continues to assume that the default person people want to see is a white male and has to be forced, kicking and screaming, to put anyone else in a place of prominence.

Nowhere is this best seen than in the bullshit "tokenism" argument. No one blinks an eye at a white character, but you have to have a reason to have a character be non-white or female. Because you can't go challenging the default. One of the biggest challenges faced by hispanic actors in hollwood is that they only get hired for roles explicitly designed to be Hispanic, if a character's race doesn't define them, the assumption is you have to find a white actor. Hell, even when the historical fucking figure IS Hispanic, they still usually default to white person.

Quote from: daniel_ream;911107All SJWs.

Oh...well, it's clear there's no talking to you on this issue, then.

Don't anyone go bringing actual facts into an online argument. That's not quite cricket.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;910849This.  Fucking this.

On the other hand he IS right about people drawing battle lines.  Just spend $5 to get one month's access to Model Railroader magazine's online archive and read the letter columns from the 40s, 50s, and even 60s.  The scorn and hostility expressed toward somebody whose toy trains are the wrong size is absolutely astounding.  Other than the fact no swearing was used, it's EVERY bit as bad as anything you see online.  And yes, most of it was over why your toy trains are the wrong size.

Quote from: chirine ba kal;910985My toy trains are the wrong size, and British to boot. Which may be why the guys at the Hennepin-Overland aren't getting $75 a month for dues from me any more. For that kind of money, I can pay somebody to make fun of my choo-choos and not have to go out of the house.

Mind if i ask what scale the one i gravitated to was ho.
And theres a guy who shows up at my local show that puts up an s scale layout.
like he says its fun to put up cuz you dont see meany of them but if something breaks its a pain in the ass to find parts.  

Quote from: cranebump;911054Pretty accurate.  

I can't personally relate to zero representation except for the media stereotypes of Texans.  I've lived here almost my whole life and never wore boots or that goddamned hat.  I don't have an accent, either.  

Not the same thing, I know...

barbecue with Franklin thats the one one i know of.