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Lucy.

I'll bite.

I'm weird, I generally like a lot of movies that are just plain terrible. I used to have once a month 'Bad Movie Night' where I and some friends would stay up watching back to back bad movies from my DVD collection... this went on for years and I never repeated myself.

Off the top of my head, I used to LOVE Tank Girl, which is just... its just... well, its fucking awful and even I'm shocked that I liked it as long as I did.   I still love Mean Guns, but I'm not sure if its because its got Ice T and Christopher Lambert in it, or I just have an unrequited love of Tina Cote that can never be satisfied due to the shocking few movies she did.

And, of course, the entire oeuvre of Rutger Hauer... especially the low budget schlock he got into in later years (see Tina Cote, Omega Doom...).

Many of my favorite bad movies aren't hated, they are just obscure, often due to low budgets and lower qualities.

So?

Jupiter Ascending?  I think that's where this post was headed, eventually its gonna end up with Jupiter Ascending.  Then again, I could put the new Tom Cruise The Mummy up in here, but I think Jupiter Ascending is a better choice. More hated by others, more liked by me.

whew, that was hard. Give me an easier question next time, mang!

The Star Wars Prequels

I am a little behind on movies and need to catch up. But I think the most recent one like this for me, and I am not 100% sure how much of a minority my view is on it, is Cloud Atlas. I don't believe it was panned, but I remember it being divisive, and have heard from a lot of people who simply didn't like it. I enjoyed it a lot.

This is far from recent but Sleepwalkers is another movie I liked that a lot of people don't seem to care for. It currently has 15% on Rotten Tomatoes. I really loved this movie when it came out. And I thought the soundtrack worked great for it.

Year One was another one that I liked, but most people didn't.

Eyes Wide Shut, but I only watched it after a friend told me of the theory that the movie is all about the title character's descent into his subconscious.

Star Wars Episode I.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1001302Star Wars Episode I.

I have to assume you are being sarcastic here.
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I liked everything up here sofar.  

Jupiter Asending I liked but was disappointed in cause it should have been so much more.   So much more!
Its about on par with Valorien and the city of 1000 worlds.

I quite liked cloud atlas.  But I think that was well liked by critics at least.  

I'll add the Godzilla movie with Matthew Broderick.  I had a great time watching that.  At least there were no loons in the jungles of Hawaii.

Quite a few. I won't say they're great movies, but I think the hate against them has been overblown.

The Matrix sequels.
The Star Wars prequels.
Tron Legacy.

Flash Gordon, although it seems now the hipsters are coming around and claiming they liked it all along.

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I'm no hipster, but I've always loved Flash Gordon.  Don't tell anyone but I also like Flesh Gordon... though it IS inferior to the original.

On the other hand, I was less enthusiastic about Flash appearing in Ted than most folks.  Flash Gordon is timeless, man... he's not supposed to be old!

Quote from: Spike;1001379I'm no hipster, but I've always loved Flash Gordon.  Don't tell anyone but I also like Flesh Gordon... though it IS inferior to the original.

On the other hand, I was less enthusiastic about Flash appearing in Ted than most folks.  Flash Gordon is timeless, man... he's not supposed to be old!

You don't have to be a hipster to like Flash Gordon. You just need to be a nerd.

I'm also a bad movie fan and I like movies if they have an aspect I enjoy even if the film in it's entirety is a mess.

I loved the creativity and combat in the Star Wars prequels and the Matrix sequels, even though I can agree with 90% of the criticisms. Thus, I enjoyed Jupiter Ascending as its basically all the mistakes of the SW prequels and Matrix sequels!! But it was pretty and the fights were fun.

Quote from: Dumarest;1001306I have to assume you are being sarcastic here.
 :D

No.  I actually liked it quite a bit, at least when Liam Neeson was on the screen.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1001390You don't have to be a hipster to like Flash Gordon. You just need to be a nerd.

I've seen included in a Media Studies class before, as a focus on post-modernism in film.

Some people seemed to hate Roman Polanski's The Ninth Gate (with Jonny Depp), but I thought it was a pretty good occult thriller.

A.I.: Artificial Intelligence - the Speilberg/Kubric movie was brilliant, in my view, although they should have cut the exposition dialogue from the ending to make it perfect.

A lot of the critics of the World of Warcraft movie were overly judgemental, I thought and actually it was pretty entertaining on the whole.  

David Lynch's Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me was absolutely slated by Twin Peans fans, but I actually think it's one of the greatest horror movies of all time.

Fire Walk with Me is a film whose rep has improved a lot since it first came out.

On a related note, I love Lynch's Dune despite it being near incoherent upon first viewing and full of Herbert's melodramatic dialogue. I love the set design, cast, goofy but memorable dialogue.

Dune notably was one movie that was not given the final directors cut by Lynch himself but was edited by producers (or business execs really). Bladerunner was a similar case and, like Bladerunner, I wonder whether removing the heavy inner monologue dialogue would have improved it somewhat. There is also apparently several hours of extra footage lost to the movie somewhere also. It is, as you say, a visual treat with the costumes and sets and so on.

All that said, Lynch still took the story into weird places, regardless - like the sound-based weapons (no-where in the book), making Bene Gesserits shave their heads (when they are supposed to be super hot escorts, in effect) or having the Baron make Thufir Hawat milk a shaved cat for an antidote (again, nowhere in the book), etc.

The Star Wars Prequels
Flash Gprdon
The most recent Conan remake
Man of Steel
Batman vs Superman
Terminator: Genesis
Rob Zombie's Halloween
The Friday the 13th remake

I love Dune.  It might be one of my favorite movies.  I didn't know it was unintelligible until I showed it to some fiends of mine.  About half way through I looked over and they had to sweet clue what was going on.  

It was a shock.  It was so obvious.  How could they not understand?

That's something that always baffled me about the Lynch Dune movie. I saw it when my age was single digits... didn't read the book until I'd more or less doubled in age (say... 8 and 16 for ballpark), and I never had a problem following it, but man did I lose some respect for Gene Siskell last year when I finally watched him and Ebert discuss it.

Dude did movie watching for a limit and was punked on Dune by an eight year old?  


That aside I'm not sure it qualifies as a movie that 'everyone hates'. Its... divisive but has many, many fans.

I never found Dune confusing; I just thought it was dull with weak protagonists in the sense of, "What's the reason I care about this guy?" I thought it looked cool, though.

Quote from: Headless;1001487I love Dune.  It might be one of my favorite movies.  I didn't know it was unintelligible until I showed it to some fiends of mine.  About half way through I looked over and they had to sweet clue what was going on.  

It was a shock.  It was so obvious.  How could they not understand?

I watched it after reading the book and think that might have helped (though I know a lot of fans of the book who didn't like it).

The only thing I really deeply despised about the Dune movie was turning Baron Harkonnen into a flying buboe.

Well, his character too, actually.  He went from "playing the game of Empire and winning" to "third rate kitten-strangler."

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1001609The only thing I really deeply despised about the Dune movie was turning Baron Harkonnen into a flying buboe.

It has been a while since I've seen the movie, so I might be remembering incorrectly, but in the book he had to use anti-gravity to hold up his fat. So flying buboe doesn't seem like an enormous stretch.

He had an antigravity belt, yes, which made him dance lightly on his feet.  Not fly.

He also did not dress in greasy, filthy leather, nor was he covered with pustles, buboes, chancres, and other assorted globs of pus.

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Not a great film, and the recurring theme song is terrible, but I like it pretty well.
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Wait... are the pockets DRAWN on his shirt?

Who DOES that????  What, do they charge a tax for every pocket you have, so to save money and make him look rich they took a marker to him? I'm confuse.

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I do like cheesy bad postapocalptic adventure films of th e '80s.

And the poor man's Indiana Joneses...

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Doc Savage had some fun moments.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1001619He had an antigravity belt, yes, which made him dance lightly on his feet.  Not fly.

He also did not dress in greasy, filthy leather, nor was he covered with pustles, buboes, chancres, and other assorted globs of pus.

Yeah, I'm not a dune fan but what was with turning baron Vladimir harkonnen into a high priest of Nurgle?

AISI, Dune's problem was that it was determined to be an absolutely epic movie. The production firm wasn't trying to make a good movie, they were determined dune would be an epic movie.

When the director or producer decides a movie must be an epic movie it often collapses under it's own grandiosity. When they made star wars they weren't out to make an epic movie, just the best movie they could. Later star wars movies suffered from trying to be epic movies. Star trek the motion picture was determined to be an epic movie. I like it, but admit it had issues.

Likewise since dune was an epic novel series they tried to force it to be an epic movie. Not just the best movie they could.

I liked star trek the motion picture.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;1001705I liked star trek the motion picture.

I was taken to see that in its original theatrical release as a young child. The only thing I can remember is being told off by an usher for playing in the aisle because the movie was so boring.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1001619He had an antigravity belt, yes, which made him dance lightly on his feet.  Not fly.

He also did not dress in greasy, filthy leather, nor was he covered with pustles, buboes, chancres, and other assorted globs of pus.

I think the Baron is one of the best things in the movie, so grotesque and over-the-top. I love the few Lynchian touches to the film, like the shaved antidote cat, look of the Bene Gesserit, etc.

I watched Dune so many times I came to understand it but I don't think I understood everything upon first viewing.

I read the book years later, I was surprised to find most of the goofy melodramatic dialogue I love from the film there line for line.

Quote from: Spike;1001495That aside I'm not sure it qualifies as a movie that 'everyone hates'. Its... divisive but has many, many fans.

It was a huge flop when released. It now has a cult following but lots of fans of the books hate it.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;1001705I liked star trek the motion picture.

I liked it too. Honestly, it was one of the Star Trek original movie franchise that felt the most "Trek" for me, at least old series though some of the sequels made for better (for lack of a more accurate term) big screen movies. Reading the novelization years later was an eye opener though as I missed some of the implication being so young when I viewed it

Quote from: Voros;1001788It was a huge flop when released. It now has a cult following but lots of fans of the books hate it.

Conversely, I like the movie better than the book.

Quote from: Nexus;1001810I liked it too. Honestly, it was one of the Star Trek original movie franchise that felt the most "Trek" for me, at least old series though some of the sequels made for better (for lack of a more accurate term) big screen movies. Reading the novelization years later was an eye opener though as I missed some of the implication being so young when I viewed it

ST: TMP was the only Star Trek movie that was like a long episode of discovery and exploration. Even though Wrath of Khan is much better and more entertaining, it has little to do with Star Trek's traditional themes. And every other Star Trek movie they've made is pretty much Star Trek in name only as far as I can tell.

Quote from: Dumarest;1001816Conversely, I like the movie better than the book.

I absolutely love the ending of the movie and was disapointed that the book didn't end that way.

Quote from: Voros;1001955I absolutely love the ending of the movie and was disapointed that the book didn't end that way.

Yeah, I saw the movie way before I tried reading the book...probably colors my opinion. But I thought the movie had a cool look and feel and ambience all its own. Like those blocky personal force fields and cool flying craft. For me the book bogged down a lot in exposition and really I never saw a reason to care about the Fremen or Paul and thought the "bad guys" were more interesting. It's a pretty neat setting but the messianic stuff kinda turns me off.

Its supposed to. Herbert was among other things critiquing the great man of history theory.

Quote from: Dumarest;1001820ST: TMP was the only Star Trek movie that was like a long episode of discovery and exploration. Even though Wrath of Khan is much better and more entertaining, it has little to do with Star Trek's traditional themes. And every other Star Trek movie they've made is pretty much Star Trek in name only as far as I can tell.

I have to agree completely here. Sttmp had a sense of "awe and wonder", to quote the original outer limits, that many movies lack and replace with "action scenes". The v'ger was of an awesome scale, the often criticized entry into the cloud and the v'ger flyover gave a sense of awe and scale to it, how almost invisibly small enterprise was compared to it. The idea that it was absolutely gigantic in scale and power.

I still like it. I think some improvements were made in the director's cut but at the same time some good things were cut.

Quote from: Dumarest;1001820ST: TMP was the only Star Trek movie that was like a long episode of discovery and exploration. Even though Wrath of Khan is much better and more entertaining, it has little to do with Star Trek's traditional themes. And every other Star Trek movie they've made is pretty much Star Trek in name only as far as I can tell.

Well put

Quote from: Spike;1001253I'll bite.

I'm weird, I generally like a lot of movies that are just plain terrible. I used to have once a month 'Bad Movie Night' where I and some friends would stay up watching back to back bad movies from my DVD collection... this went on for years and I never repeated myself.

Off the top of my head, I used to LOVE Tank Girl, which is just... its just... well, its fucking awful and even I'm shocked that I liked it as long as I did.   I still love Mean Guns, but I'm not sure if its because its got Ice T and Christopher Lambert in it, or I just have an unrequited love of Tina Cote that can never be satisfied due to the shocking few movies she did.

And, of course, the entire oeuvre of Rutger Hauer... especially the low budget schlock he got into in later years (see Tina Cote, Omega Doom...).

Many of my favorite bad movies aren't hated, they are just obscure, often due to low budgets and lower qualities.

So?

Jupiter Ascending?  I think that's where this post was headed, eventually its gonna end up with Jupiter Ascending.  Then again, I could put the new Tom Cruise The Mummy up in here, but I think Jupiter Ascending is a better choice. More hated by others, more liked by me.

whew, that was hard. Give me an easier question next time, mang!

I'm assuming you're a big fan of Just Looking then?

Quote from: Schwartzwald;1002210I have to agree completely here. Sttmp had a sense of "awe and wonder", to quote the original outer limits, that many movies lack and replace with "action scenes". The v'ger was of an awesome scale, the often criticized entry into the cloud and the v'ger flyover gave a sense of awe and scale to it, how almost invisibly small enterprise was compared to it. The idea that it was absolutely gigantic in scale and power.

I still like it. I think some improvements were made in the director's cut but at the same time some good things were cut.

Maybe it's because I was a kid, but the alien-ness and size of V-Ger did a great job of creeping me the fuck out. The probe sequence on the bridge was notably traumatic. :D
I just have not felt anything like that since. *Shakes cane*

I feel like a lot of modern movies do not spend enough time building tension. They get right to the action and/or drama, and it feels shallow to me.

V'ger was awesome. The book version of the film is even more interesting and has lots more detail, as books usually do. The transporter accident at the beginning is more interesting, for instance, because in the book you know that the woman who dies is Kirk's girlfriend.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1002283I feel like a lot of modern movies do not spend enough time building tension. They get right to the action and/or drama, and it feels shallow to me.

Yep, no build-up, just one explosion after another. I saw the first of the new Star Trek movies and said, "Not for me." It was just one action sequence after another with a little bit of a script attempting to bridge them and give them a reason to happen.

Quote from: Dumarest;1002307Yep, no build-up, just one explosion after another. I saw the first of the new Star Trek movies and said, "Not for me." It was just one action sequence after another with a little bit of a script attempting to bridge them and give them a reason to happen.

I considered the Abrams abominations to be basically "die hard" movies with vaguely trek like names and imagery plaseterd over generics action movie plots.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;1002321I considered the Abrams abominations to be basically "die hard" movies with vaguely trek like names and imagery plaseterd over generics action movie plots.

Exactly. Basically Michael Bay movies with a Star Trek veneer.

The first Abrams movie was Top Gun.  Note for note.  

It wasn't star treck.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1002226I'm assuming you're a big fan of Just Looking then?

Assuming that IMDB took me to teh right film I have no idea what you're actually asking?  I've never heard of this film, and the blurb suggests... teenage voyuer in the 1955 Bronx?  

I assume its a bad film, then? Obscure adn low budget?

Help me, Obi-wan Squee, you're my only hope!



EDIT::: Bah, nevermind. I knew I'd heard of this film... that's one of her movies I've never been able to see, never found a copy.  Clearly IMDB was trying to trick me with the other one.

Quote from: Headless;1002384The first Abrams movie was Top Gun.  Note for note.  

It wasn't star treck.

Top Gun was directed by Tony Scott.

Abrahms made his directorial debut with Mission Impossible III, but was mainly of note for doing Cloverfield and Super 8 before he took on Star Trek. Personally, I found his Star Trek movies better than anything else in the series, but I was never a Star Trek fan prior to them, so that may the point.

Quote from: TrippyHippy;1002412Top Gun was directed by Tony Scott.

You realize he's comparing the first Abrams Star Trek film to Top Gun, no?

Quote from: Dumarest;1002415You realize he's comparing the first Abrams Star Trek film to Top Gun, no?

Well, it may be confusing to some when he says "The first Abrams movie was Top Gun."

It wasn't anything like Top Gun, in any case. It was a protracted origin story, that had all the same tropes as any other origin reboot.

Quote from: TrippyHippy;1002421Well, it may be confusing to some when he says "The first Abrams movie was Top Gun."

It wasn't anything like Top Gun, in any case. It was a protracted origin story, that had all the same tropes as any other origin reboot.

Well, I didn't say I agree with his assessment. I like Top Gun. Of course, it all takes place in my hometown, so it has that going for it.

Quote from: Dumarest;1002422Well, I didn't say I agree with his assessment. I like Top Gun. Of course, it all takes place in my hometown, so it has that going for it.

Your hometown is in the sky? Man, pinch is cooler than I remembered!

Quote from: TrippyHippy;1002412Top Gun was directed by Tony Scott.

Abrahms made his directorial debut with Mission Impossible III, but was mainly of note for doing Cloverfield and Super 8 before he took on Star Trek. Personally, I found his Star Trek movies better than anything else in the series, but I was never a Star Trek fan prior to them, so that may the point.

I think his Trek films are fine but I'm not a hardcore Trekker either.

His star treck films were fine.  As generic mildly sci-fi movies.  As Star Treck?  Well they weren't star treck.  

It was a protracted origin story that had all the same tropes as Top Gun.

Kirk is Maveric.  Spock is Ice Man.  The capitian is who ever Maverics mentor was.  It's Top Gun.

Quote from: Spike;1002434Your hometown is in the sky? Man, pinch is cooler than I remembered!

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You're just envious of our  ace pilots, volleyball games, and barbecue.

Quote from: Spike;1002407Assuming that IMDB took me to teh right film I have no idea what you're actually asking?  I've never heard of this film, and the blurb suggests... teenage voyuer in the 1955 Bronx?  

I assume its a bad film, then? Obscure adn low budget?

Help me, Obi-wan Squee, you're my only hope!



EDIT::: Bah, nevermind. I knew I'd heard of this film... that's one of her movies I've never been able to see, never found a copy.  Clearly IMDB was trying to trick me with the other one.

I'll try and find you a copy.

The Keep. Everyone hates it I love it!

Quote from: The Exploited.;1002492The Keep. Everyone hates it I love it!

I like the keep to. It's an odd movie. Everything about it was great when looked at separately but somehow the movie ASA whole just seemed to be less than the sum of it's parts.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;1002512I like the keep to. It's an odd movie. Everything about it was great when looked at separately but somehow the movie ASA whole just seemed to be less than the sum of it's parts.

Yeah, that's true... The whole concept is amazing it could have been a HP Lovecraft novel. But it does feel quite disjointed and could have been a lot better. Interestingly enough I prefer the movie's take on the actual creature from the book much more interesting I thought. Apparently there was quite a bit cut out of it too (becase of the studio) that probably didn't help either I suppose.

I like The Keep, definitely flawed but vivid imagery.

Quote from: Voros;1002781I like The Keep, definitely flawed but vivid imagery.

Yeah man, it's definitely got a certain something... I'd like to see a remake done with a decent director - it'll never happen tho' as it has been well buried by Mann. :(

Quote from: The Exploited.;1002492The Keep. Everyone hates it I love it!

I liked it

Quote from: Nexus;1002822I liked it

As a gamer one moment I loved was when this quote happened.

"No, no, this is not a fortress. A soldier could walk up the outside wall. Why are the small stones on the outside and the large stones here in the interior? It's constructed... backwards. This place was not designed to keep something... out. What is this pleace? "

Again this is a moment as a gamer I would love to have as a player, to realize the keep was not built like a fortress but a prison.. As a gm I would drop subtle hints and just describe the place and wait to give some XP to the player who got it.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;1002831As a gamer one moment I loved was when this quote happened.

"No, no, this is not a fortress. A soldier could walk up the outside wall. Why are the small stones on the outside and the large stones here in the interior? It's constructed... backwards. This place was not designed to keep something... out. What is this pleace? "

Again this is a moment as a gamer I would love to have as a player, to realize the keep was not built like a fortress but a prison.. As a gm I would drop subtle hints and just describe the place and wait to give some XP to the player who got it.

Yeah, I love it when those moments happen.

The other thread just reminded me of Prometheus. Seems like a lot of nerd fanbois hate it because it wasn't Cameron's Aliens, so now a potentially great franchise has been misdirected into the retread mill.

And here I thought people hated it because it was a fucking incoherent mess of a film full of people acting in ways that people in their position would never act (especially considering the costs of spaceflight assumed by the setting, thus the idea of selecting blithering idiots and madmen for the crew...).

But then I only know any of that because there are eight hundred videos of Youtube trying to make it make sense so that, I assume, the Videomakers CAN like the film.

Quote from: Spike;1003848And here I thought people hated it because it was a fucking incoherent mess of a film full of people acting in ways that people in their position would never act (especially considering the costs of spaceflight assumed by the setting, thus the idea of selecting blithering idiots and madmen for the crew...).

But then I only know any of that because there are eight hundred videos of Youtube trying to make it make sense so that, I assume, the Videomakers CAN like the film.

A fucking men brah! I knew it was going to suck when the Scottish geologists yanked off him helmet when the sensors detected oxygen. I mean, they saw evidence of life, and life is the greatest biohard of all. Fucking idiots.

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1003736The other thread just reminded me of Prometheus. Seems like a lot of nerd fanbois hate it because it wasn't Cameron's Aliens, so now a potentially great franchise has been misdirected into the retread mill.

Heck, I think Aliens sucks. We should start a "Movies everybody seems to like but you hate" thread. Haven't seen Prometheus and whatever the last one was called. The last Alien movie I saw had Winona Ryder in it and it sucked.

Quote from: Dumarest;1003925Heck, I think Aliens sucks. We should start a "Movies everybody seems to like but you hate" thread. Haven't seen Prometheus and whatever the last one was called. The last Alien movie I saw had Winona Ryder in it and it sucked.

But....but....but....Winona Ryder!

Quote from: Spike;1003940But....but....but....Winona Ryder!

Spends 95% of her screen time making variations of this face:
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It's as if the director asked her to be as simpering and annoying as possible.

And I say this as a big fan of Heathers and the original Alien.

Quote from: Dumarest;1003925Heck, I think Aliens sucks. We should start a "Movies everybody seems to like but you hate" thread. Haven't seen Prometheus and whatever the last one was called. The last Alien movie I saw had Winona Ryder in it and it sucked.

Agreed. Aliens is massively overrated, sentimental and remarkably stupid.

Quote from: Dumarest;1003947Spends 95% of her screen time making variations of this face:

It's as if the director asked her to be as simpering and annoying as possible.

And I say this as a big fan of Heathers and the original Alien.

Pouty Winona is best Winona.

Quote from: Spike;1003996Pouty Winona is best Winona.

Don't worry Spike. They say such things because they have no souls.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1003997Don't worry Spike. They say such things because they have no souls.

but... but.... I'm a ginger!

So after that possibly too esoteric joke...

I had a thought. I've never actually seen Cutthroat Island, I don't think I've seen enough footage of it to make a decent trailer, in fact. Somehow, despite being released in 1994 (?) I missed this suck so badly that by the time I heard of it, it was a historical footnote of sheer brazen badness that seemed to me to be out of the late seventies or early eighties (Despite, somehow anachronistically, starring Geena Davis, who I should mention, I adore. Not as much as pouty Winona, but enough.)

I'm absolutely sure I would love it, though.  I mean: Epically Bad. What could possibly go wrong?






Wait: Tank Girl.


Hmm..........

Quote from: Spike;1004020So after that possibly too esoteric joke...

..

It wasn't too esoteric. We were just stunned into silence by the ginger revelation.

Quote from: Spike;1003996Pouty Winona is best Winona.

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Quote from: Spike;1004006but... but.... I'm a ginger!

So, do you really earn a new freckle for each soul you steal?

Quote from: Schwartzwald;1004076So, do you really earn a new freckle for each soul you steal?

Mais Oui!

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1001257I am a little behind on movies and need to catch up. But I think the most recent one like this for me, and I am not 100% sure how much of a minority my view is on it, is Cloud Atlas. I don't believe it was panned, but I remember it being divisive, and have heard from a lot of people who simply didn't like it. I enjoyed it a lot.

What the Warchowskis did to one of the greatest works of literature written in recent memory was an absolute crime. If you haven't read the novel, do yourself a favor and parcel out a few weeks of free time. I read the book fist, and even I had trouble understanding the movie, even though I knew the story.

Quote from: Aglondir;1004448What the Warchowskis did to one of the greatest works of literature written in recent memory was an absolute crime. If you haven't read the novel, do yourself a favor and parcel out a few weeks of free time. I read the book fist, and even I had trouble understanding the movie, even though I knew the story.

I don't know. I mean the book may have been amazing (not sure since I haven't read it) but I enjoyed the film well enough to not regard it as a artistic crime. I do get that not everyone likes it though. If I get time, I may read the book, but have to admit it isn't high on my list of things to get to.

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1003736The other thread just reminded me of Prometheus. Seems like a lot of nerd fanbois hate it because it wasn't Cameron's Aliens, so now a potentially great franchise has been misdirected into the retread mill.

No. I didn't like it because it was incoherent, with idiotic characters doing stupid things - and it's plot for what it was, was lifted from Lovecraft's At the Mountains of Mountains. The Lovecraft movie was in production at the same time and, rumour has it that the Lovecraft movie was canned because it was 'too heavily referenced' in other films. With Guillermo Del Toro meant to be helming the Lovecraft project, it could have been an awesome movie as well.

I liked Ridley Scott's Alien, however, but he's a hit and miss director. Prometheus was definitely a miss for me.

Quote from: Spike;1003996Pouty Winona is best Winona.

Best Winona was Spock's Mom in Abrams Trek.

Quote from: jeff37923;1004511Best Winona was Spock's Mom in Abrams Trek.

That would require watching that movie again, which I will never do. :mad:

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1001255The Star Wars Prequels

I thought Phantom Menace was ok. Even with some of writing issues. And I actually rather like Attack of the Clones. I though did not like Revenge of the Sith.

Quote from: Omega;1004556I thought Phantom Menace was ok. Even with some of writing issues. And I actually rather like Attack of the Clones. I though did not like Revenge of the Sith.

That's about  the reverse of what everyone else has told me. I still haven't see them due to lack of interest so I can't say either way. The few minutes I saw while my son was watching them didn't leave a favorable impression. Too many Jedis, not enough smugglers.