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Name movies most people hate and you like.

Started by Schwartzwald, October 17, 2017, 09:43:00 AM

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#45
October 20, 2017, 05:35:48 AM
Quote from: Dumarest;1001820ST: TMP was the only Star Trek movie that was like a long episode of discovery and exploration. Even though Wrath of Khan is much better and more entertaining, it has little to do with Star Trek's traditional themes. And every other Star Trek movie they've made is pretty much Star Trek in name only as far as I can tell.

Well put
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#46
October 20, 2017, 05:46:24 AM
Quote from: Spike;1001253I'll bite.

I'm weird, I generally like a lot of movies that are just plain terrible. I used to have once a month 'Bad Movie Night' where I and some friends would stay up watching back to back bad movies from my DVD collection... this went on for years and I never repeated myself.

Off the top of my head, I used to LOVE Tank Girl, which is just... its just... well, its fucking awful and even I'm shocked that I liked it as long as I did.   I still love Mean Guns, but I'm not sure if its because its got Ice T and Christopher Lambert in it, or I just have an unrequited love of Tina Cote that can never be satisfied due to the shocking few movies she did.

And, of course, the entire oeuvre of Rutger Hauer... especially the low budget schlock he got into in later years (see Tina Cote, Omega Doom...).

Many of my favorite bad movies aren't hated, they are just obscure, often due to low budgets and lower qualities.

So?

Jupiter Ascending?  I think that's where this post was headed, eventually its gonna end up with Jupiter Ascending.  Then again, I could put the new Tom Cruise The Mummy up in here, but I think Jupiter Ascending is a better choice. More hated by others, more liked by me.

whew, that was hard. Give me an easier question next time, mang!

I'm assuming you're a big fan of Just Looking then?

Ratman_tf

#47
October 20, 2017, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: Schwartzwald;1002210I have to agree completely here. Sttmp had a sense of "awe and wonder", to quote the original outer limits, that many movies lack and replace with "action scenes". The v'ger was of an awesome scale, the often criticized entry into the cloud and the v'ger flyover gave a sense of awe and scale to it, how almost invisibly small enterprise was compared to it. The idea that it was absolutely gigantic in scale and power.

I still like it. I think some improvements were made in the director's cut but at the same time some good things were cut.

Maybe it's because I was a kid, but the alien-ness and size of V-Ger did a great job of creeping me the fuck out. The probe sequence on the bridge was notably traumatic. :D
I just have not felt anything like that since. *Shakes cane*

I feel like a lot of modern movies do not spend enough time building tension. They get right to the action and/or drama, and it feels shallow to me.
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#48
October 20, 2017, 12:39:48 PM
V'ger was awesome. The book version of the film is even more interesting and has lots more detail, as books usually do. The transporter accident at the beginning is more interesting, for instance, because in the book you know that the woman who dies is Kirk's girlfriend.

Dumarest

#49
October 20, 2017, 12:40:51 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf;1002283I feel like a lot of modern movies do not spend enough time building tension. They get right to the action and/or drama, and it feels shallow to me.

Yep, no build-up, just one explosion after another. I saw the first of the new Star Trek movies and said, "Not for me." It was just one action sequence after another with a little bit of a script attempting to bridge them and give them a reason to happen.

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#50
October 20, 2017, 01:31:12 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;1002307Yep, no build-up, just one explosion after another. I saw the first of the new Star Trek movies and said, "Not for me." It was just one action sequence after another with a little bit of a script attempting to bridge them and give them a reason to happen.

I considered the Abrams abominations to be basically "die hard" movies with vaguely trek like names and imagery plaseterd over generics action movie plots.

Dumarest

#51
October 20, 2017, 03:02:54 PM
Quote from: Schwartzwald;1002321I considered the Abrams abominations to be basically "die hard" movies with vaguely trek like names and imagery plaseterd over generics action movie plots.

Exactly. Basically Michael Bay movies with a Star Trek veneer.

Headless

#52
October 20, 2017, 06:00:36 PM
The first Abrams movie was Top Gun.  Note for note.  

It wasn't star treck.

Spike

#53
October 20, 2017, 07:30:24 PM Last Edit: October 20, 2017, 07:36:44 PM by Spike
Quote from: Warboss Squee;1002226I'm assuming you're a big fan of Just Looking then?

Assuming that IMDB took me to teh right film I have no idea what you're actually asking?  I've never heard of this film, and the blurb suggests... teenage voyuer in the 1955 Bronx?  

I assume its a bad film, then? Obscure adn low budget?

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EDIT::: Bah, nevermind. I knew I'd heard of this film... that's one of her movies I've never been able to see, never found a copy.  Clearly IMDB was trying to trick me with the other one.
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#54
October 20, 2017, 08:20:28 PM Last Edit: October 20, 2017, 08:23:47 PM by TrippyHippy
Quote from: Headless;1002384The first Abrams movie was Top Gun.  Note for note.  

It wasn't star treck.
Top Gun was directed by Tony Scott.

Abrahms made his directorial debut with Mission Impossible III, but was mainly of note for doing Cloverfield and Super 8 before he took on Star Trek. Personally, I found his Star Trek movies better than anything else in the series, but I was never a Star Trek fan prior to them, so that may the point.
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#55
October 20, 2017, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: TrippyHippy;1002412Top Gun was directed by Tony Scott.

You realize he's comparing the first Abrams Star Trek film to Top Gun, no?

TrippyHippy

#56
October 20, 2017, 08:30:10 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;1002415You realize he's comparing the first Abrams Star Trek film to Top Gun, no?
Well, it may be confusing to some when he says "The first Abrams movie was Top Gun."

It wasn't anything like Top Gun, in any case. It was a protracted origin story, that had all the same tropes as any other origin reboot.
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#57
October 20, 2017, 08:34:06 PM
Quote from: TrippyHippy;1002421Well, it may be confusing to some when he says "The first Abrams movie was Top Gun."

It wasn't anything like Top Gun, in any case. It was a protracted origin story, that had all the same tropes as any other origin reboot.

Well, I didn't say I agree with his assessment. I like Top Gun. Of course, it all takes place in my hometown, so it has that going for it.

Spike

#58
October 20, 2017, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;1002422Well, I didn't say I agree with his assessment. I like Top Gun. Of course, it all takes place in my hometown, so it has that going for it.

Your hometown is in the sky? Man, pinch is cooler than I remembered!
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#59
October 20, 2017, 09:38:19 PM
Quote from: TrippyHippy;1002412Top Gun was directed by Tony Scott.

Abrahms made his directorial debut with Mission Impossible III, but was mainly of note for doing Cloverfield and Super 8 before he took on Star Trek. Personally, I found his Star Trek movies better than anything else in the series, but I was never a Star Trek fan prior to them, so that may the point.

I think his Trek films are fine but I'm not a hardcore Trekker either.
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