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McCain just alienated us

Started by walkerp, August 19, 2008, 01:36:48 AM

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Kellri

#15
August 19, 2008, 08:09:58 AM
QuoteWe politely tell him he can fuck himself as long as he´s calling us liberals!

C'mon...why bother to be polite?

QuoteIn his "apology" for the first disparaging remark he said: "This campaign is committed to increasing the strength, constitution, dexterity, intelligence, wisdom, and charisma scores of every American."

But is he going to push for demi-human level limits? Or tell us why McCain's wife looks so much like the Succubus in MM1? Poser.
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walkerp

#16
August 19, 2008, 08:34:55 AM
It's also lazy writing.
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Pseudoephedrine

#17
August 19, 2008, 09:05:13 AM
The Internets Is Offending Me!!!!!11!!!!1!!!
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#18
August 19, 2008, 10:09:05 AM
Are people really offended by this? I don't think much of McCain- but really who cares about this kind of thing?
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walkerp

#19
August 19, 2008, 10:30:10 AM
I don't think anybody is really offended.  It's just kind of funny to see a reference to our world pop up in the mainstream political discourse.  Unfortunately, it does happen to be a fairly negative reference and actually, as previously mentioned by other posters, way off the mark.
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jeff37923

#20
August 19, 2008, 11:38:06 AM
Quote from: Aos;236755Are people really offended by this? I don't think much of McCain- but really who cares about this kind of thing?

I'm offended that walkerp would read about this on RPGnet and then post it here, basing its importance on the number of threads in Tangency that this created.

And to think that it is unique or funny to see a reference to our hobby in political discourse (I don't think Michael Goldfarb is mainstream anything) demonstrates ignorance because when Gary Gygax passed away notable political pundit Michelle Malkin and political comedian Stephen Colbert both talked about his influence on their lives. This isn't anything new or special, its just another excuse for Nurd Rage.
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RPGPundit

#21
August 19, 2008, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: The_Shadow;236685I think this might be close to the mark. Self-hating gamer as it were.

In his "apology" for the first disparaging remark he said: "This campaign is committed to increasing the strength, constitution, dexterity, intelligence, wisdom, and charisma scores of every American." Tongue-in-cheek, but it sounds like he knows what he is talking about. And why else would he make two references to D&D - a pretty obscure pastime - unless he had some personal involvement?

Maybe he felt burned by 4e.

More likely he's full of self-loathing for all the years he spent in his mom's basement playing the game, not getting chicks, etc. which he later blamed on the "loser" liberals.  "it was their bad influence that made me a 36 year old virgin" or something like that.

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#22
August 19, 2008, 01:06:16 PM
Quote from: Settembrini;236681This is awesome:

We politely tell him he can fuck himself as long as he´s calling us liberals!

I like that, D&D-players not wanting to be equated with furries or liberals.

Just awesome.

Not what I meant. I encourage all gamers to tell them how you feel.

I specifically asked him if he'd found Patricia Pulling and didn't bother finding out the facts.

As long as you're not doing things like calling him Goldfag or swearing. That level of polite.

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#23
August 19, 2008, 01:21:38 PM
Well, the name walkerp chose to call the blogger would be social suicide in Germany. At least in 99% of cases.

It would be constructed/perceived as antisemitism. Which is ironic, thinking about the exchange gleichman and walkerp had on the subject of racism.

walkerp manages to push a lot of buttons for many people, without redeeming features like being funny or being right.
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gleichman

#24
August 19, 2008, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;236791And to think that it is unique or funny to see a reference to our hobby in political discourse (I don't think Michael Goldfarb is mainstream anything) demonstrates ignorance because when Gary Gygax passed away notable political pundit Michelle Malkin and political comedian Stephen Colbert both talked about his influence on their lives. This isn't anything new or special, its just another excuse for Nurd Rage.

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walkerp

#25
August 19, 2008, 01:26:41 PM
How come it's anti-semitic?  I would've thought homophobic, if anything.  But that would by people who are easily offended.

My disrespect for goldfag is because I consider people in his profession to be lower than the politicians they shill for.  These losers who latch onto a specific dogma, ideology or individual and then make their living cheerleading for them.  They are Wormtongue.
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Engine

#26
August 19, 2008, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: gleichman;236892Links?
Michelle Malkin
Stephen Colbert

They've both publicly talked about playing D&D several times previously, as well. Roleplayers end up in all walks of life, from political pundit to, you know, Vin Diesel.
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#27
August 19, 2008, 01:36:07 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;236677Am I the only one who thinks Goldfarb might be a "closet gamer" who was disgusted by (and possibly banned from) RPG.net after posting on Tangency and finding out that most of his fellow gamers there are left-leaning? And now he has a hate-on for the entire hobby?

DUDE!!!  Nailed it.  I think you're totally right.

I mean, I doubt it was actually RPG.net and Tangency, but I'll bet he was kicked out of his college gaming group because they wanted to invite some women to play, and they took offense at his Lesbian Ninja Stripper, or something along those lines.

"Cool liberal kids won't let me play with them.  ::mutter:: I'll show them."

QuoteAnyways, as someone pointed out elsewhere, its probably a bad move for McCain, seeing as how there are a great number of Military Gamers, who (at least according to prevailing ideas) are supposed to be republican-voting, that could be offended by this.  Shit, its one of those nothing-to-gain-everything-to-lose scenarios.

I kind of doubt it will cause any serious loss of support, but yeah, totally a no-gain-all-fail path to tread.
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Pseudoephedrine

#28
August 19, 2008, 01:49:15 PM
Quote from: walkerp;236894How come it's anti-semitic?  I would've thought homophobic, if anything.

His last name is Jewish. The Germans' grandparents killed a couple million of them, so they're touchy about ragging on anyone who's a Jew because they don't want folks to confuse them with their grandparents and think that they want to kill Jews.





Also, don't forget that Yanks and most other foreigners don't find our mean Canadian sense of humour funny. S'an acquired taste.
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walkerp

#29
August 19, 2008, 01:59:40 PM
Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;236929His last name is Jewish. The Germans' grandparents killed a couple million of them, so they're touchy about ragging on anyone who's a Jew because they don't want folks to confuse them with their grandparents and think that they want to kill Jews.

Seriously?  So you just aren't allowed to make fun of anyone who is Jewish in Germany anymore?  Or is it the manipulation of the last name that makes it a bit more touchy.  I could kind of see that, but it still seems a bit much.

I think Sett is just after me because my presence keeps reminding him that Encount4rdization was born and raised in the fires of 3.5.
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