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Is it time for 90s nostalgia?

Started by TheShadow, June 10, 2008, 11:53:35 PM

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Spike

When I think back... really really hard... I am very hard pressed to picture a '90's style, like we can do with the 80's and 70's and so forth.  I think, to some extent, that the stylistic differences of the mainstream between the nineties and the aughts  are not wide enough to really register.  That said, I think one thing that was common in the 90s was nostaligia comebacks. For breif periods of time I saw bellbottoms and tie dies without irony, though never to the extemes of the periods they originated in (as styles... bellbottoms have been common nautical wear for... a reallly long time).

Heck, when I watch Sienfeld reruns (I never watched the show when it aired, and I don't watch it now... but sometimes it's just on as I go by) I don't see much that stands out clothing wise. Hair, a little. I can see Jerry's hair looking a bit silly.  

I mean, t-shirts and jeans are still popular. Button down shirts that aren't fully buttoned down... still popular.  The Late 90's and early 00's had this thing were women wore those backless shirts...

I think, as the 00's move along we are starting to get a distinctive look that is creeping in that will create a difference for future generations to have nostaligia for, but now? Not yet.

Subculture stuff? Now that we CAN have some nostaligia looks come in and out.  Once people forget Columbine a bit more you'll see more Trenchcoat Mafia nostalgia. Once the Goth explosion dies down you'll start to see old school goth revivals.. then new school goth revivals after that. Grunge? Yeah, grunge looks might come back as nostalgia... thats something that didn't survive the decade that is entirely contained within it.  Kurt Cobain posters will have a resurgance... give it another five or six years... maybe ten if Ms. Love can't stop making a mess of herself. I've noticed that every time Yoko hits the news there is a backlash against Lennon-love... just to get her to shut up and go away again....
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Insufficient Metal

Quote from: Pierce InverarityHey, electronic music as we know it (acid, techno, electronica) barely existed before the Summer of Love era, circa 1990 depending on how you count. It went to hell quickly, like everything, but it had a few great years and still manages to generate the odd awesomeness.

Funny, I kind of saw Nineties electronic as a bit of a dip downward in quality -- artists like Tangerine Dream and Synergy were doing some great, interesting stuff in the 70s and 80s. Then the Nineties came along and it mostly turned to shit.

Quote from: SpikeWhen I think back... really really hard... I am very hard pressed to picture a '90's style, like we can do with the 80's and 70's and so forth.

Grunge, flannel, piercings, Van Dykes, etc. The thing about the 00s is that these things tend to fragment rather than becoming ubiquitous and then vanishing.

Pierce Inverarity

Quote from: ticopelpFunny, I kind of saw Nineties electronic as a bit of a dip downward in quality -- artists like Tangerine Dream and Synergy were doing some great, interesting stuff in the 70s and 80s. Then the Nineties came along and it mostly turned to shit.

Don't tell anyone, but I was a Klaus Schulze fan in the late 70s. But that's worlds apart from Aphex Twin.
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James J Skach

The 90's nostalgia won't be as big for one big reason. The 90's were, to some extent, an attempt to throwback to the 60's/70's - to re-imagine those earlier times with a update.

So to to have nostalgia for it would be having nostalgia for a re-imagining of a time that was before most of those for whom the nostaligia would have the most meaning were even born.

I will, however, never forget when I first saw Smell Like Teen Spirit or Evenflow.

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Quote from: Pierce InverarityDon't tell anyone, but I was a Klaus Schulze fan in the late 70s. But that's worlds apart from Aphex Twin.

Agreed on both counts. I guess I'm just saying "worlds apart" is different than "didn't exist." Aphex Twin was great, but it didn't spring from the nostril of Zeus.

I'm probably splitting hairs unnecessarily though.

JamesV

Quote from: Serious PaulI will, of course, deny any and all knowledge of the clothing I wore in the first three years of that decade. Then I rediscovered the jeans and teeshirt look, from which I have never returned.

You didn't look like this did you?

Explain yourself Serious Paul!

OTOH, I've been a jeans and tee guy since 1987 when I was nine and I outgrew my parachute pants.

I've never looked back, except with a sad fondness.
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I feel nostalgia for nineties... mostly because I was born in 1988, so my childhood memories take place in nineties...
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One of the few things from the early '90s that I LIKE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txirj1vX_Ck

That band and their songs.


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Quote from: JamesVYou didn't look like this did you?

No that guy was way more stylish than I ever dreamed of being. I should probably report for termination...:D

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Quote from: FritzsI feel nostalgia for nineties... mostly because I was born in 1988, so my childhood memories take place in nineties...
Wait... there's a poster on these boards younger than I am?

So... do you also remember when Nickelodeon kicked ass?

Fritzs

beejazz: What's Nickelodeon...? That's something we haven't in Czech republic whan I was kid...

But I loved some of Disney cartoons such as Duck Tales...
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-R.

Quote from: Pierce InverarityHey, electronic music as we know it (acid, techno, electronica) barely existed before the Summer of Love era, circa 1990 depending on how you count. It went to hell quickly, like everything, but it had a few great years and still manages to generate the odd awesomeness.

Not to be pedantic...okay, actually to be pedantic, but to say that the likes of techno and acid -- I'll let "electronica" pass, as it was a meaningless marketing term that really didn't describe anything -- "barely existed' before the Summer of Love era is...well, misleading.

There's no doubt that between '88 and '91 that the likes of techno and house became mainstream (moreso in the UK), but the genres, and all their quickly developing sub-genres, were well established in places like Chicago and Detroit.  

The (Second) Summer of Love era always struck me as being akin to the British Invasion: an English recontextualizing of American music that helped to popularize the original genres, though sometimes to the point of the originals being somewhat ignored.

After all, how many people are aware of just who the guys were that created house, techno and acid?  That they were, almost exclusively, working class African-Americans?
 

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Quote from: Fritzsbeejazz: What's Nickelodeon...? That's something we haven't in Czech republic whan I was kid...
TV station here stateside. At the time, it aired cartoons like Rugrats, Doug, Ren & Stimpy (I didn't get this stuff as a kid, but going back to it I love it), and a few others. It also had some of the few live-action series aimed at kids that were actually worthwhile (from what I've seen), like Are You Afraid of the Dark?, Salute Your Shorts, and Pete & Pete.

You probably didn't get the station, nor much of the programming at the time, though I wouldn't be surprised if some of it got aired elsewhere and later.

QuoteBut I loved some of Disney cartoons such as Duck Tales...
I remember those. Darkwing Duck, too. Fun times.


Pierce Inverarity

Quote from: -R.Not to be pedantic...okay, actually to be pedantic, but to say that the likes of techno and acid -- I'll let "electronica" pass, as it was a meaningless marketing term that really didn't describe anything -- "barely existed' before the Summer of Love era is...well, misleading.

There's no doubt that between '88 and '91 that the likes of techno and house became mainstream (moreso in the UK), but the genres, and all their quickly developing sub-genres, were well established in places like Chicago and Detroit.  

The (Second) Summer of Love era always struck me as being akin to the British Invasion: an English recontextualizing of American music that helped to popularize the original genres, though sometimes to the point of the originals being somewhat ignored.

After all, how many people are aware of just who the guys were that created house, techno and acid?  That they were, almost exclusively, working class African-Americans?

How many people?

Shit, I dunno, how about bunches and bunches of them?

Given your little lecture is as accurate as it's bog standard, delivered not to correct a historical injustice but to display a knowledge more common than you apparently think it is?

Put another way: kthx.
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