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Idrius Elba is going to be a kick ass gunslinger.

Started by Headless, July 19, 2017, 02:25:45 PM

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Dumarest

#15
July 20, 2017, 11:28:36 AM
Quote from: Spike;976726no, its a reference to teh TV show Supernatural, which I personally stopped watching some six years ago (around season seven...) and is... I think... STILL GOING. The main characters are the Winchester brothers, who hunt monsters alongside their friend Castiel the angel.

I was just thinking how awesome it would be if that show shared a continuity with Stephen King's films and someone did a crossover.  Because of the word "Supernatural".

Haven't seen it as supernatural movies and TV shows aren't my cup of tea, but I'm going to assume the Winchester mansion is much more interesting given that it's real and really strange.

Voros

#16
July 21, 2017, 02:06:17 AM
Quote from: Warboss Squee;976788I've never heard him without the accent.

Have you seen Beast of No Nation? There he plays an African warlord.

Warboss Squee

#17
July 21, 2017, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Voros;977039Have you seen Beast of No Nation? There he plays an African warlord.

It's in my line up. I'll get to it eventually.

Voros

#18
July 21, 2017, 02:13:31 AM
Quote from: HorusArisen;976785Idris Elba is one of my favourite actors, he's simply brilliant. He is not by a country mile in any way representative of Roland Deschain, very much as he was miscast as Heindall. The gunslinger is well described in both book and interviews. The casting of Idris means they're actually taking out an intense story string between him and one of his companions.

The only saving grace is unlike the abomination that was the casting of Tilda Swinton he can at least act in character.

Actors in films rarely resemble the character as described in the book. Bogart hardly matches the descrpition of Spade as a 'blonde satan.' According to the books Bond looked like the singer Hoagy Carmichael which is a long way from Connery and Connery played the English Bond with his Scottish accent and was so successful that the later Bond books by Fleming bizarrely switch him into being Scottish!

Voros

#19
July 21, 2017, 02:14:39 AM
Quote from: Warboss Squee;977041It's in my line up. I'll get to it eventually.

The book is excellent. The film is good.

Llew ap Hywel

#20
July 21, 2017, 04:22:34 AM
Quote from: Voros;977042Actors in films rarely resemble the character as described in the book. Bogart hardly matches the descrpition of Spade as a 'blonde satan.' According to the books Bond looked like the singer Hoagy Carmichael which is a long way from Connery and Connery played the English Bond with his Scottish accent and was so successful that the later Bond books by Fleming bizarrely switch him into being Scottish!

I haven't read the Bond or Spade books or I'd exhibit the same level of annoyance, possibly less as even I don't expect an exact match,  but it's still a complete miscasting. I doubt my opinion will affect its profits but I can't see that they're doing it for any other reason than PC insanity.

I m not to be convinced on this any more than Scarlett johansson as the Major, or Tilda Swanton as Kung Fu Celtic Druid Tibetan mystic were palatable to me.
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Headless

#21
July 23, 2017, 03:20:53 PM
The preview looked good.  I haven't read the full series, so I don't know everything about the charcter.  But big mean and merciless, and DRIVEN, I think Elba can pull it off.

Llew ap Hywel

#22
July 24, 2017, 05:33:14 AM
Quote from: Headless;977565The preview looked good.  I haven't read the full series, so I don't know everything about the charcter.  But big mean and merciless, and DRIVEN, I think Elba can pull it off.

Idris Elba can definitely pull of those traits but still won't be Roland.
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Voros

#23
July 24, 2017, 05:41:00 AM
Saw the full trailer in the theatre tonight and it is stronger than what I saw on TV.

But will a big budget multi-film series have the spine to recreate the iconic 'Go then, there are other worlds than these' sequence from the first book? I doubt it.

Nexus

#24
July 25, 2017, 03:45:44 PM
Quote from: Voros;977741Saw the full trailer in the theatre tonight and it is stronger than what I saw on TV.

But will a big budget multi-film series have the spine to recreate the iconic 'Go then, there are other worlds than these' sequence from the first book? I doubt it.

Not familiar with it, what would make it daring (spoilers are fine for me)?
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Dumarest

#25
July 25, 2017, 08:31:52 PM
Quote from: Voros;977042Actors in films rarely resemble the character as described in the book. Bogart hardly matches the descrpition of Spade as a 'blonde satan.' According to the books Bond looked like the singer Hoagy Carmichael which is a long way from Connery and Connery played the English Bond with his Scottish accent and was so successful that the later Bond books by Fleming bizarrely switch him into being Scottish!


You Only Live Twice, 1964, but I doubt it was because of Sean Connery so much as it was because the Bond family Ian Fleming knew in real life was Scottish. Also, you can hardly say he was "switched" as previously he was pretty much a cipher with regard to his background. And why was he half Swiss then?

Voros

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July 26, 2017, 04:34:06 AM Last Edit: July 26, 2017, 04:44:35 AM by Voros
Quote from: Nexus;978151Not familiar with it, what would make it daring (spoilers are fine for me)?

Considering how old the book is...

Spoiler
The Gunslinger lets a kid die.

I remember it shocking me as a teen. In addition, in the first book the Gunslinger kills an entire town of people, women and children included.

The whole tone of the first book is really stark, strange; cold as ice and mythic. Very atypical for King. The books became more typically King as they progressed and I lost interest because of that.

Voros

#27
July 26, 2017, 04:59:25 AM
Quote from: Dumarest;978226You Only Live Twice, 1964, but I doubt it was because of Sean Connery so much as it was because the Bond family Ian Fleming knew in real life was Scottish. Also, you can hardly say he was "switched" as previously he was pretty much a cipher with regard to his background. And why was he half Swiss then?

Originally Fleming said Bond was Scottish on both sides and then apparently changed his mind. Perhaps he thought it too on the nose?

Headless

#28
July 26, 2017, 12:19:09 PM
Quote from: Voros;978302Considering how old the book is...

Spoiler
The Gunslinger lets a kid die.

I remember it shocking me as a teen. In addition, in the first book the Gunslinger kills an entire town of people, women and children included.

The whole tone of the first book is really stark, strange; cold as ice and mythic. Very atypical for King. The books became more typically King as they progressed and I lost interest because of that.

It's all King.  But you're right, the first book is a wierd King.

After that it gets more Kingy.  I really hate his two companions.

Manic Modron

#29
July 26, 2017, 10:21:56 PM
From what I've heard about the movie, it is set after all the events of the novel series.  I suppose spoilers for those who care about that sort of thing... a lot of speculation, but also some spoilers.

Spoiler
This is Roland on the last journey to the Tower.  He has gone through cycle after cycle of reincarnation, each journey another level of the tower, a slightly different Midworld, and each time he does something a little more right.  Just like at the end of the series he starts across the desert with Cuthbert's Horn that he abandoned before, we might be unlikely to see him leave Jake to die because that impulse might not occur to him anymore.  
These small changes might pile up after a while.  The further Roland passes through the halls of the Tower, the more things change, both internally and externally.  There might have been a Midworld Shogunate once instead of an Affiliation.  The only person who might not change all that much could be the Man in Black, because he might well be aware of what is happening and is taking precautions so as not to lose himself in the shifting realities of the repeating quest.

Not that this is what they are doing, or that they are guaranteed to do it well if they do, but it is something I've been pondering.
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