In fact, any time Michael Stipe has his mouth open, I prefer it to be because he's eating.
As opposed to the tons of good songs REM had... Yeah... Right...
Quote from: SosthenesAs opposed to the tons of good songs REM had... Yeah... Right...
Good =/= Pleasing to Rotwang!.
Well, if there's such a thing as objective morals, I think we all agree that REM should be put on the "evil" side. Although I'd put "Everybody hurts" and "Shiny happy people" even further in the dark side...
Quote from: SosthenesWell, if there's such a thing as objective morals, I think we all agree that REM should be put on the "evil" side. Although I'd put "Everybody hurts" and "Shiny happy people" even further in the dark side...
Oh, come on. You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. "Automatic for the People" is easily one of the best albums of the 90s. Seriously. Even if you don't like "Everybody Hurts" (which I can easily tune out when I listen to the whole CD). "Find the River" more than makes up for it.
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Quote from: Ian AbsentiaOh, come on. You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. "Automatic for the People" is easily one of the best albums of the 90s.
Well, if you add "mainstream" before "albums", I might even agree, considering what I generally think of 90s music...
i lost touch with their stuff after "life's rich pageant." material like "stand" and "shiny happy people" etc. made me go :what: i know those aren't really representative of their later tunes, but the music just took an angle that didn't do it for me anymore.
now if i could just find my "chronic town" e.p. . . .
Quote from: SosthenesWell, if you add "mainstream" before "albums", I might even agree, considering what I generally think of 90s music...
Philistine. :p
Quote from: beeberi lost touch with their stuff after "life's rich pageant." material like "stand" and "shiny happy people" etc. made me go i know those aren't really representative of their later tunes...
No, no, in many ways those two tunes
are representative of what their later music became. I even agree that "Life's Rich Pageant" was, in many ways, their last hurrah, adding only that "Automatic for the People" was a brief return to form (with at least one irritating concession to that annoying form of pop they'd discovered). After that album, I lost touch with their sound. With the exception of "What's the Frequency Kenneth?" I couldn't honestly tell you what their music has been like since.
All this said, yeah, "It's the End of the World as We Know It" is an annoying fucking song...but still not as fucking annoying as "Happy Shiny People" and Kate Pearson's off-key shrieking.
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(P.S. Oh, hey! I almost forgot. Happy Mexican Independence Day, Rotwang! :haw: )
Quote from: Ian Absentia(P.S. Oh, hey! I almost forgot. Happy Mexican Independence Day, Rotwang! :haw: )
Thanks. You're actually 4 months and 11 days early, but it's kind of you to think of my Mexican half.
Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Thanks. You're actually 4 months and 11 days early, but it's kind of you to think of my Mexican half.
I like to get a jump on things. My new neighbors were apparently thinking of half of you, too.
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Should I reveal my ignorance here? I remember Orange Crush growing up, and by the time I'd finally figured out which band was responsible for sticking that in my head (for years it was stuck there... years I tells ya) they started in with the shiny happiness and ending of the world.
Needless to say, I never bothered to figure out more than I didn't care for Stipe and company. In fact, Stipe managed to annoy me more than his music when I'd see him interviewed or just punditing on MTV and the like. Thankfully rarely.
I at one time loved "Losing My Religion" , then I got sick of it.
Now I seem to only like when OTHER people do REM songs.
Like this version of "Losing my Religion" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7hRnPKdQq4
- Ed C.
Quote from: SpikeIn fact, Stipe managed to annoy me more than his music when I'd see him interviewed or just punditing on MTV and the like. Thankfully rarely.
I know what you mean. In the years since he started becoming a vocal activist about...something or other...I've gradually superimposed Moby over Stipe in my mental world. I'm much happier for it.
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I was an REM fan very early on when I bought Reckoning, their second album. I quickly bought Murmur (their first) soon after. They made pretty solid albums all through the '80s, my favorite being Life's Rich Pageant. When they got to the '90s they weren't as good. Automatic for the People was a pretty good one though.
I saw them in 1983 when I was living in Hawaii. They played a small dance hall on Halloween night (there was a costume contest, but that's a different story). Back then Stipe had a big scruffy head of hair. It was a great show.
I've never cared much for REM. I think they're one of the most over-rated bands of the 80's and 90's.
There are certain albums which mark the soundtrack of my descent into geekdom, the sound of building endless M:tG decks and playing half-elf rangers in 2e. Automatic For The People is one of them, and you can never take it away from me.
This also explains my disturbing fixation with Ace of Bass. :tinfoil:
Quote from: ZalmoxisI've never cared much for REM. I think they're one of the most over-rated bands of the 80's and 90's.
Which, in the absence of anything resembling a qualifier, boils back down to "I've never cared much for REM."
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To be blunt :
Songs and groups only really resonate with me if I associate them with a good relationship. No past girlfriend of mine made a big deal about R.E.M. - So I could take'em or leave 'em.
However ... I have VERY good memories of La Isla Bonita" as sung by Madonna and a certain rainy afternoon with a significant other.
Wang Chung and "Everyone have Fun Tonight" is damn good memory.
So is "I melt with you " by a certain late '80s alternative band.
Heq, whole seasons of the "Highlander" TV series are pleasdant memories because of an almost girlfriend. (she REALLY liked swords and Adrian Paul)
Priunce and the Revolution?? YEP, very good memories of a certain relationship...
You get the idea....
Of their later stuff, I quite liked "Imitation of Life" and "Bad Day".
REM's one of those groups (like the Tragically Hip and the Tea Party) where a "Best Of" is about all I need. I like 'em, but a selection of hits is good enough - I don't need the full discography.
That said, my wife's a huge fan of REM, hence, I get the full discography anyway.
it just felt odd when stipe's vocals suddenly became intelligble :blahblah:
that particular song, tho--you could hear it at parties all the time
blah blah murmrmrm mumble
LEONARD BERNSTEIN!!!
mrml blah blah. . . .
all that furthered my retreat into metal. . . and anime music.
the 90s were and odd time
Just to clarify: anybody out there digs the REM, more power to you, get your Stipe on.
Me, I no like-a the REM. Hard, in the face. I'm with Koltar on the tunes, frankly, but I...suspect...you all knew that already.
Quote from: Ian AbsentiaWhich, in the absence of anything resembling a qualifier, boils back down to "I've never cared much for REM."
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Indeed it does. :D
Quote from: ZalmoxisIndeed it does. :D
Which makes it a perfectly valid statement.
You know, it's kind of funny. Increasingly, I'm all in favor of people declaring their distaste for things they don't like, as long as they state it in a complete sentence. "Game X sucks!" is an incomplete statement of opinion masquerading as a fact -- it's going to take a lot more effort to support that statement. "I think Game X sucks!" is a succinctly valid statement, clearly an opinion.
Wait. What's this all about? Right. REM rocks. Well, they used to. :haw:
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