Nope - big difference.

 Thanatos has been on here for awhile and contributed to various threads in a much more normal manner. (as far as I can remember)


- Ed

Quote from: Koltar;224564Nope - big difference.

 Thanatos has been on here for awhile and contributed to various threads in a much more normal manner. (as far as I can remember)

Shut the fuck up Ed.  What the fuck do you contribute?  Nothing, except to serve as a fat joke about gamers.

Quote from: Edsan;224541So, since Jack's theory is wrong what do you think is the reason we are supposedly starved for female forumites here?

Fuck that shit, man.  It's not my job to come up with theories, though this thread could work as a case in point were I to do so.  Counter-examples are more than sufficient.

-O

Quote from: Jackalope;224560I revelled in the fact that their own idiotic paranoia made it easy to manipulate them.



The exact same thing could be said of you.

The part that confuses me is that even though we're both apparently unimaginative jerks with no compelling points, you seem to be operating unde rthe delusion that you are so superior to me that you have the right to conscend me and talk to me like I need a fucking lesson from wise old you.

Get the fuck over yourself.   You call me an internet tough guy, but you're no better.  You're an internet sage, a dumb fucking jackass who gets his jollies off pretending he's all deep and wise.  You're not deep and wise.  You're just a parrot.



I never said anything about beating anyone up.  When i told Kyle if he wants to fight me, fight me, I din't mean "in person with your fists."  I meant if he;s going to start shit with me, don't be a pussy about it.  Call me names "to my face" as it were.  Come at me directly.  Talking about me like I'm not reading this, talking around me, that's just obnoxious, petty passive-aggressive shit.  That's shit for people who can't actually handle a flame-war, who need to make all of their attacks indirectly.

You call me a jerk, a fuckhead, an asshole, whatever.  Tomorrow I won't care.  But you pull that kind of passive-aggressive shit on me, create an atmosphere around me that's just nothing by poisonous mist, that's just cowardly shit, that makes me actively dislike you.  It's corrosive.  A forum can survive flamewars.  You can have one today, and have a civil discussion the next day.  Flamewars are just people blowing off steam because they find each other's arguments frustrating.

That passive-aggressive shit though, that just leaves people ticking with anger, unable to get back at you, and can drag a whole forum down.  That kind of shit rules the day over at rpg.net and the WOTC forums.

no u

Quote from: obryn;224572Fuck that shit, man.  It's not my job to come up with theories.

No worries. Brantai already provided an optimal explanation.

Quote from: obryn;224572Fuck that shit, man.  It's not my job to come up with theories, though this thread could work as a case in point were I to do so.  Counter-examples are more than sufficient.

Counter-examples that you claim to have but won't show are, however, not sufficient.  They are, in fact, bullshit.

Quote from: Jackalope;224580Counter-examples that you claim to have but won't show are, however, not sufficient.  They are, in fact, bullshit.

You have absolutely no idea about this history of this very board, do you?

-O

Quote from: obryn;224602You have absolutely no idea about this history of this very board, do you?

You changed the topic.

Again:  Counter-examples that you claim to have but won't show are, however, not sufficient. They are, in fact, bullshit.

Quote from: Jackalope;224565Shut the fuck up Ed.  What the fuck do you contribute?  Nothing, except to serve as a fat joke about gamers.

Don't anger the klingon, please. The cleaners get rather upset about clearing up the resultant mess.

Jackalope, as we say up here in the Great White North, you need to take a serious fiver.

I think there is some truth in what you say, but you have taken it to such an extreme that there is just no way you are going to win the argument about female gamers with anyone.  It's not worth your time getting all freaked out about it.  I know, I have a tendency to do the same.  This site probably has some of the better piss-takers on the gaming interwebs.  You're not dealing with the whiny modsucks of rpg.net here.

It's just that this thread is moving from entertaining to getting a little dark.  It's like rough-housing with your friends and then you see one of your buddies face getting all red and serious. It's time to take a break.

Quote from: walkerp;224646It's just that this thread is moving from entertaining to getting a little dark.  It's like rough-housing with your friends and then you see one of your buddies face getting all red and serious. It's time to take a break.

Blame Kyle and Obryn and their pathetic little passive-aggressive shit-talking armchair psychology bullshit.

That kind of shit sucks the fun out of flame-wars and being outrageous (which I most certainly am intentionally being) so fast.

Quote from: Jackalope;224657Blame Kyle and Obryn and their pathetic little passive-aggressive shit-talking armchair psychology bullshit.

That kind of shit sucks the fun out of flame-wars and being outrageous (which I most certainly am intentionally being) so fast.

I thought you were getting better for a while, but the passive-aggressiveness is really concentrated in one corner.  I'll give you a hint:  It isn't Kyle's corner.  Nor Obryn's.

And before your 'poor little me' theories come out again, if we were in the same room at some point, Kyle and I would likely punch each other in the face over past arguments, but then we would go out for a Foster's.  Well, I would get a Foster's, I think Kyle considers it the Australian version of Budweiser.

At any rate, it's because Kyle lays his cards on the table.  I know where I stand with him.  He knows where he stands with me.  Neither of us are going to turn into whiny internet tough guys when our views are questioned or challenged.

From the little I have read (my fault, not his) of Obryn, I can assume the same applies there as well.

You, on the other hand, can go masturbate to Men's Health magazine for all I care, because your shitheaded talk about women's void stealing your light is just too retarded for words.

And yet, I am fucking brilliant enough to come up with some anyway.  Revel in my glory, fucktard.

Quote from: Jackalope;224638You changed the topic.

Again:  Counter-examples that you claim to have but won't show are, however, not sufficient. They are, in fact, bullshit.

No, it's completely on-topic.

Way back when - well, 6 or 7 years back, anyways - there was a wonderful board named Nutkinland.  Nutkinland was largely unmoderated, gaming-oriented, and a shitload of fun.  I'd say there were about 2/3 men, 1/3 women.  It was also probably among the best-run forums ever - seriously, just ask any of the former members.

Nutkin had to stop doing the board thing for personal reasons, so he handed over the reins, and thus was born Nothingland.  Nothingland lasted a good several years.  Eventually, it too closed - the administrator was getting threatened, unlikely though that sounds.  It was the same as Nutkinland before it, as far as subject and board makeup.  Again, gaming-oriented.  Again, unmoderated.

Spoony (Michael Morris) got a hair up his ass at one point after ENWorld pissed him off, so he decided to set up TheRPGSite as a direct competitor of ENWorld.  He got Nutkin to come on board, or at least give it his blessing, so for the first few months this was Nutkinland: The RPG Site.  Many folks who joined in those days may remember the squirrel & acorn theme, which carried on well past the time I would have expected.  It never grabbed too many people - most of the NTL diaspora went to other sites like CM (unmoderated, gaming oriented, men and women), HO (ditto), SSR, and KT (which started as a semi-private forum).

Spoony got sick of running this particular site, made nice with ENWorld, and called Pundit on his willingness to administrate the site... and here we are.  It basically started as an unholy mixture of gaming-interested members of the NTL diaspora, Pundit and his proxies, and disgruntled members of RPG.net.  The first group - apart from me, Caesar Slaad, Col. Hardisson, and maybe a few others I can't think of right now - has largely moved on to boards without Pundit.

So, I'm not changing the fucking topic at all.  You're just unaware that the very board you're posting your "challenge" on is a direct descendant of several other boards which were (1) gaming-oriented, (2) unmoderated, and (3) mixed-gender; and which (4) worked really goddamn well.  And hence, at least two of your counter-examples.  (The other NTL diaspora sites are yet more counter-examples.)

-O

Quote from: StormBringer;224670I thought you were getting better for a while, but the passive-aggressiveness is really concentrated in one corner.  I'll give you a hint:  It isn't Kyle's corner.  Nor Obryn's.

You and I obviously have very different idea about what constitutes passive-aggressiveness.  This is passive-aggressive:
   "Oh well, since Dominus Nox ran away, we've been looking to fill the position of village idiot for therpgsite. For a while I wondered if it might be Anthrobot, but since his return from his absence he's not been outstandingly stupid.

I say we hire Jackalope for the position. He's demonstrated great potential for the role."
That's passive-aggressive for several reasons.  First, there's the implicit "I have invisible supporters." in his use of "we."  Who is "we?"  "We" is no-one in particular, "we" is just a mealy-mouthed way of pretending that Kyle speaks for a group of people.  He uses "we" solely to imply that this is an issue of "everyone vs Jackalope."   The goal here is too intimidate me with the threat of social ostracization if I don't tow the line and accept Kyle's opinions as facts.

It's also passive-aggressive because it's an attack on me that isn't actually directed at me.  It's directed at the space around me.  That's the fucking definition of passive-aggressive, when you attack someone indirectly, so that they are forced to appear aggressive if they counter-attack.

QuoteAt any rate, it's because Kyle lays his cards on the table.  I know where I stand with him.  He knows where he stands with me.  Neither of us are going to turn into whiny internet tough guys when our views are questioned or challenged.

No, you'll turn into little passive-aggressive pussies who talk out of the corners of your mouths.

QuoteYou, on the other hand, can go masturbate to Men's Health magazine for all I care, because your shitheaded talk about women's void stealing your light is just too retarded for words.

What the fuck.  Why don't you attack something I actually said, instead of this fucking bullshit.  I don't even know what the fuck "women's void stealing my light" is supposed to mean, or what you're referring to

Quote from: Jackalope;222906Women like that aren't welcome in gaming.  I don't know anyone who wants to play with people like that.  I would not allow 95% of the women I've met through gaming to join my game.

Seriously dude, the Forum Lead for Astrid's Parlor is, at this moment, whining in one of the threads about how unfair it is that she didn't get free grief counseling when her allergist told her she was allergic to corn and nuts.

That's the mentality we're dealing with.  Who wants to play with that?  Fuck, I'd rather play with Engine.

Best place to start.


I don't post for a while and this is what I come back to? No wonder gamers can't have nice things

Jackalope, piss off. Since this forum has search, you can look and see all the cuddly threads I've started. I'd bet there are damn few. I'm sorry you got bad female gamers where you are, but I fucking resent being painted with the same broad (see what I did there?) brush.

You're a jackass and a twit. I wouldn't game with you. Not because I'm a feminist. I like "good" fantasy art that includes bodies of men and women that are impossible to achieve in real life - Boris Vallejo is a great example. I play - depending on the game and character - either strong women that are basically men with tits or softer, quiet girls that just happen to be good at adventuring.

I was interested in gaming for years, but couldn't find a gamer until I met the guy I married. He finally introduced me and I play not to hang out with him, but to have a good time with other people.

Maybe it's because I'm not fat. :confused: Maybe it's the wargaming I've done. Or all the FPS games I play.

And for the record? My husband doesn't know my underwear size. He knows I wear between a 6-8 for outer wear, and that's it. Some things aren't important, and my size is one of 'em.

Go back to 4chan, cunt.