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Gamers and "gender-inclusive" language

Started by TheShadow, July 08, 2008, 06:26:18 AM

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Koltar

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Kyle Aaron

Quote from: Jackalope;224030Yeah, but the common element in all of my functional relationships is also me, so...???
So we conclude that humans are not monoliths, that we have our good areas and our bad areas. Just as we can be good at volleyball and bad at bowling, good at writing and bad at public speaking, and so on, so too can be good in (say) our work relationships but bad in our (say) intimate relationships.

You just have to look at the trends in your life. For example, we might see a person who has had 20 or 30 different jobs, and in every single case has said they had to quit or get themselves fired "because the boss was a cunt." Now, it's not plausible that all 20 or 30 bosses were terrible, it runs counter to everyone else's experiences, both in general and with those 20 or 30 bosses. What's much more likely is that it's the guy himself. But this same guy could have a loving relationship with a boyfriend or girlfriend, many good friends who rely on and trust him, and so on. It's not that he's entirely functional or dysfunctional, but rather that he does well in some areas but not others. He goes looking for trouble, or he has prejudices - "all bosses are cunts" - which fuck things up for him.

Likewise, if a guy tells us that most women gamers are stupid fat aggressive bitches, that's not plausible that most women gamers are like that, it runs counter to everyone else's experiences. What is more likely is that it's the guy himself: either he attracts and seeks out unpleasant women, or else they're not bad, he just sees them that way. He's just a bigot. Either Jackalope is a bigot, or he's a guy who goes looking for trouble. Joking aside, that does not mean that Jackalope has no functional relationships in his life. But there is obviously at least this one troublesome area.

You are responsible for all the bad shit in your life, but you're responsible for the good stuff, too. You get the blame and the credit for most of what happens in your life. You can be good in some areas, bad in others.

The rest of your post is just ranting which is entertaining for its irony but not worthy of response.
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Quote from: NotYourMonkey;224027Wait, so girls gaming is a bad thing now?
Totally.  They have cooties, you know.

!i!

Jackalope

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;224054Likewise, if a guy tells us that most women gamers are stupid fat aggressive bitches, that's not plausible that most women gamers are like that, it runs counter to everyone else's experiences.

Does it?  Really?  Because most guys I know who have enough experience with the gaming scene to form a meaningful opinion agree with me...when the conversation isn't occurring on a public forum where self-whipping pussies like you are quick to thump the feminist dogma.
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Kyle Aaron

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Thanatos02

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Quote from: Jackalope;224073Does it?  Really?  Because most guys I know who have enough experience with the gaming scene to form a meaningful opinion agree with me...when the conversation isn't occurring on a public forum where self-whipping pussies like you are quick to thump the feminist dogma.

I think I know where your problem area is.

EDIT: It's ok. Kyle beat me to it.
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StormBringer

I thought the whole thing was over with issue #300, so I am confused.  When did Dave Sim start writing again?
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jgants

Quote from: Jackalope;224073Does it?  Really?  Because most guys I know who have enough experience with the gaming scene to form a meaningful opinion agree with me...when the conversation isn't occurring on a public forum where self-whipping pussies like you are quick to thump the feminist dogma.

I loathe feminism, and have gamed with plenty of annoying women over the years.  But you're still wrong.  Your "fat, aggressive bitches" generalization is as bad as Koltar's "all the female gamers in my area are hot sorority babes" stories.

Women gamers, like male gamer, come in all shapes and sizes with all kinds of personalities.  While many might fit your stereotype, many will not (much as the fat virgin with poor social skills and hygiene living in his parent's basement stereotype does not describe all male gamers).
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Jackalope

Quote from: jgants;224182Women gamers, like male gamer, come in all shapes and sizes with all kinds of personalities.  While many might fit your stereotype, many will not.

Absolute none of which went unacknowledged in my posts.  Whatever, if people want to be retards and attack me based on straw-men, that's their fucking problem.

Though I'll point out, to Kyle, that the reasons why therpgsite is the way it is, and the rpg.net is the way it is, is due primarily to the difference in the number of female users.  Since he seems to hate tBP, maybe he should think about that.

If the number of women using this forum were to grow, you would rapidly see this forum degenerate into the same sort of soft-headed, idiotic travesty that rpg.net is.
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Brantai

Quote from: Jackalope;224218Absolute none of which went unacknowledged in my posts.  Whatever, if people want to be retards and attack me based on straw-men, that's their fucking problem.

Though I'll point out, to Kyle, that the reasons why therpgsite is the way it is, and the rpg.net is the way it is, is due primarily to the difference in the number of female users.  Since he seems to hate tBP, maybe he should think about that.

If the number of women using this forum were to grow, you would rapidly see this forum degenerate into the same sort of soft-headed, idiotic travesty that rpg.net is.

Okay.

-R.

Quote from: StormBringer;224156I thought the whole thing was over with issue #300, so I am confused.  When did Dave Sim start writing again?



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Thanatos02

Quote from: Jackalope;224218Though I'll point out, to Kyle, that the reasons why therpgsite is the way it is, and the rpg.net is the way it is, is due primarily to the difference in the number of female users.  Since he seems to hate tBP, maybe he should think about that.

Also, Kyle is on record as not really hating RPG.net?

You must be a lot of fun on ladies night, yo.
God in the Machine.

Here's my website. It's defunct, but there's gaming stuff on it. Much of it's missing. Sorry.
www.laserprosolutions.com/aether

I've got a blog. Do you read other people's blogs? I dunno. You can say hi if you want, though, I don't mind company. It's not all gaming, though; you run the risk of running into my RL shit.
http://www.xanga.com/thanatos02

jgants

Quote from: Jackalope;224218Absolute none of which went unacknowledged in my posts.  Whatever, if people want to be retards and attack me based on straw-men, that's their fucking problem.

Dude, I didn't attack you, I just said I disagreed with you and gave my reasons.

But feel free to continue with your "Gaming bros before gaming hos!" discussion.
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Koltar

Quote from: jgants;224182.................. is as bad as Koltar's "all the female gamers in my area are hot sorority babes" stories.

Hey now!

 The women gamers locally are various and of all ages - and most of them never got into the sorority thing.

We're talking as youg as the redheaded 20 year old who wanted to join the marines and her firsat time stopping by the game store (the old version) she was looking for ideas for a game she was about to run. It w3as her first time as DM and she really wanted to do a good job of it.

 As for 'older' women who are gamers at our store - there have been a few in their 40s and 50s that are still damn attractive.

 One, she wore a leather jacket (tailored well) and was the DM  for hger group...in conversation I asked her hgow she jumped to DM so fast from player and she said : "Because I'm a bith that likes to be in control".  She said it with a wicked smile. Her group also discovered that her adventures were more interesting than the ones they had been doing previously.

Many more stories I could tell...but you guys would probably get bored and this thread isn't called: "Tales from a Game Store..."


- Ed C.
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

jgants

Quote from: Koltar;224412Many more stories I could tell...but you guys would probably get bored and this thread isn't called: "Tales from a Game Store..."

Why don't you just start all your posts with, "Dear Penthouse Forums, I never thought this would happen to me but..."  :p
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Recently Ended: Palladium Fantasy - Warlords of the Wastelands: A fantasy campaign beginning in the Baalgor Wastelands, where characters emerge from the oppressive kingdom of the giants. Read about it here.