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Gamers and "gender-inclusive" language

Started by TheShadow, July 08, 2008, 06:26:18 AM

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Balbinus

Quote from: The_Shadow;223319Come on. We need proof!

Possibly, but I also need to keep my eyes from exploding out of my head.

Incidentally, this isn't personal to Jackalope, I don't want to see photos of any of you kissing.  I imagine you all as svelte sophisticates (except Koltar, who I imagine as a Klingon basically, and Pika who is of course a Pikachu).  Don't ruin the illusion.

gleichman

#271
Quote from: Ian Absentia;223233You insult and insinuate to provoke a response, you get all pouty when someone stands up to you,

To use your word- horseshit.

My first post in this thread was here- http://www.therpgsite.com/showpost.php?p=222826&postcount=40, it was a response to Edsan after Kyle in launched into his game of insult.

And that is nearly always the pattern.

Quote from: Ian Absentia;223233In any case, bravo, Brian.  You've once again managed to make a thread largely about you.  And that's what this game is really all about, isn't it? :)

So far it's been about Kyle insulting everyone in the world. You doing your drives by which is basically all you have to often threads these days. Walker continues his "I hate mankind and want it dead" mindset on anything that disagrees with him, and Balbinus going bat nuts crazy because people don't like stupid and worthless PC lingo.

It's only about me to the point where people such as yourself make it about me. In short you expect to coast along with no one calling you on your bullshit and when it does happen you go on a holy crusade. I'm so sorry your such a damn wimply flower Ian. You should get out more and learn how to deal with life.

At least own your actions. If this thread is now about me, it's because YOU, Walker, Kyle and Balbinus made it about me- all in order to dodge and cover your own failings.
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gleichman

#272
Quote from: Balbinus;223276I said you were Islamophobic, which you recharacterised as me saying you were racist.

Such nick picking is beneath you Balbinus. You know well and good that most people (like walker) see no difference.

That you would bring it up here is another indication of your new ad hominem nature (don't listen to Brian on pronoun usage or anything else, he's Islamophobic and thus can't have nothing useful to say)- as if we're talking about Islam's use of pronouns.

In any case, it's a damn lie. If you must toss a -phobic on something, pick at least one connected to the issue, Sharia-phobic perhaps.

Or better yet, maybe you should just label me as someone who would like to see Western Culture survive in those nations where Western Culture came to prosper. And is more than willing to let any Islam do the same in the nations where Islam prospers if but granted the right in return to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in my own land.

Maybe the old time word patriot. I'm sure that one is widely hated enough here that you and others would consider it an insult, but it's a label I wouldn't mind bearing even if I fall short of deserving.
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Warthur

Quote from: John Morrow;223218There is an interesting essay on Howard's racism here that includes some of Howard's sentiments that he expressed in letters to others.

Holy shit, that's a smoking gun if ever I saw one.

Quote from: Robert E. HowardHoward's attitude toward violence inflicted on non-whites is visible in some of his letters.  In a letter to H. P. Lovecraft, Howard talks about a rancher who was investigated for the murder of a Mexican.  "[...] just why so much trouble was taken about a Mexican I cannot understand."  In reference to a trial in Honolulu where native Hawaiians were accused of rape, Howard wrote, "I know what would have happened to them in Texas.  I don't know whether an Oriental smells any different than a nigger when he's roasting, but I'm willing to bet the aroma of scorching hide would have the same chastening effect on his surviving tribesman." [ii]  There is also a conversation between Howard and Novalyne Price that is remembered in her memoir on Howard.  Howard tells Novalyne,  "[...] I guess you know if a Negro is found on the streets after dark in Coleman, Santa Anna, and several other towns around here, they run him out of town.  Chances are they might tar and feather him."  When Novalyne reacted negatively, Howard returned, "Let me tell you something, girl, that you don't seem to know.  Those people come from a different line.  They have different blood - "
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Warthur

Quote from: Jackalope;223306You know how I know what my ex's measurements are?  One day I walked up behind her while she was dusting a dresser, reached around her, and grabbed her chest.  She squealed, and I asked her "Say, how big are these anyways?' and gave them a squeeze.  So she answered, and then we had sex.  And because I actually fucking pay attention, I still remember the answer.

Uh-huh.

QuoteJust like I know she weighs around 120, because she once complained that she had put on weight, and I asked her how much she weighed, and she said "Like 125, I should weigh 120." and I was like "Pssh.  You could gain another 10 and you'd still be smoking hot." and then she lost the weight.  or stopped complaining about it, hard to tell really.

Uh-huh.

QuoteToo bad she couldn't hold down a job and I had to dump her.  She certainly had some fine qualities.  ::sigh::

Uh-huh.

So, what jobs were these that she kept losing? Was she a model for a while? Did she have a private detective gig which fizzled? Did she get kicked out of NASA for some dangerous stunt during a spacewalk? Booted from the CIA because of internal politics? How's her fighter pilot training coming?
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I recommend The RPG Pub as a friendly place where RPGs can be discussed and where the guiding principles of moderation are "be kind to each other" and "no politics". It\'s pretty chill so far.

wulfgar

Man this thread really got wierd over night.  Anyways, I dug up another female protaganist of REH's stories.  I haven't read these myself though:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Agnes
 

noisms

Quote from: Warthur;223335So, what jobs were these that she kept losing? Was she a model for a while? Did she have a private detective gig which fizzled? Did she get kicked out of NASA for some dangerous stunt during a spacewalk? Booted from the CIA because of internal politics? How's her fighter pilot training coming?

I'm guessing ex-Mossad agent.

To derail the thread even further, I see you're reading a Ramsay Campbell book, Warthur. I went to school with his son. Weird guy.
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Engine

Quote from: Jackalope;223306You want to see a picture of her?  Hell, you want to see a picture of me kissing her?
Oh, yes. Most definitely.
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Warthur

Quote from: noisms;223338I'm guessing ex-Mossad agent.

To derail the thread even further, I see you're reading a Ramsay Campbell book, Warthur. I went to school with his son. Weird guy.
Campbell himself, or his son?

TBH, I think Campbell is lucky to have grown up as functional and (based on his essays about his fiction and his life, and the brief e-mail conversation I have had with him) sane and lucid as he is, considering the circumstances he had to deal with growing up; you know the story about his mother being a bit mad and preventing him from seeing his father for years (even though they lived in the same house) and eventually succumbing to what sounds like paranoid schizophrenia, right?
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I recommend The RPG Pub as a friendly place where RPGs can be discussed and where the guiding principles of moderation are "be kind to each other" and "no politics". It\'s pretty chill so far.

noisms

Quote from: Warthur;223345Campbell himself, or his son?

TBH, I think Campbell is lucky to have grown up as functional and (based on his essays about his fiction and his life, and the brief e-mail conversation I have had with him) sane and lucid as he is, considering the circumstances he had to deal with growing up; you know the story about his mother being a bit mad and preventing him from seeing his father for years (even though they lived in the same house) and eventually succumbing to what sounds like paranoid schizophrenia, right?

Both are weird, although the son more than the father. My parents know Ramsay and his wife pretty well, so yeah, I heard the story about his mother. Apparently Ramsay used to be able to hear his father moving around upstairs, but never saw him - so he was just like an invisible presence in the house. Absolutely fucked up, and you're right that it's amazing that he's (relatively) normal.

His son's a great guy, but distinctly..odd. Could be something to do with the fact that apparently Ramsay used to read him his novels as bed time stories as a kid! (Although I'm not sure if that's a joke or not.)

Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread. Just nice to see that people out there still read his books. As well as having the local connection, I think he's one of the absolute best horror writers still working today.
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Quote from: noisms;223349Anyway, sorry for derailing the thread. Just nice to see that people out there still read his books. As well as having the local connection, I think he's one of the absolute best horror writers still working today.
Yeah, I think it's a real shame that his books were allowed to go out of print in the UK. At least Tor have been putting out some of the more recent stories in the US - and Virgin Books picked up The Grin of the Dark for a UK release, so he's finally working his way back onto the shelves.

(Incidentally, I can totally recommend The Grin of the Dark to anyone. Easily one of Campbell's best, and that's saying a lot. I did a review of it here if anyone's interested.)
I am no longer posting here or reading this forum because Pundit has regularly claimed credit for keeping this community active. I am sick of his bullshit for reasons I explain here and I don\'t want to contribute to anything he considers to be a personal success on his part.

I recommend The RPG Pub as a friendly place where RPGs can be discussed and where the guiding principles of moderation are "be kind to each other" and "no politics". It\'s pretty chill so far.

Jackalope

#282
Quote from: Warthur;223335So, what jobs were these that she kept losing? Was she a model for a while? Did she have a private detective gig which fizzled? Did she get kicked out of NASA for some dangerous stunt during a spacewalk? Booted from the CIA because of internal politics? How's her fighter pilot training coming?

No, when we started dating she was like the appointment girl at a SuperCuts, and then she got fired right after we moved in together.  During the four months we lived together, she worked like eight days at three different places.  All waitressing jobs.  Didn't last more than three days at any place.  Eventually I became convinced she wasn't really trying to keep a job, and was basically trying to get me to support her without noticing I was doing it.  Then when i suggested maybe she needed to move out, she started talking about Washington state residency laws and how I couldn't just kick her out, and the relationship went downhill really, really fast from there.  I ended up moving out of the apartment, which she promptly lost.

That was actually how I ended up going to Prague to teach English for a year.

Just for Engine.  sorry, i apparently can't figure out how to use a spoiler.:
EDIT:  Waitaminute...now that I'm a bit more awake, I think maybe I shoudl keep those to myself.  You guys are jerks.
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Engine

Quote from: Jackalope;223458Hah hah, and you thought I was making it up.
Oh, no. I just wanted to compare her physically to my own ex-girlfriends as a proxy for determining whether I'm better than you are.
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Jackalope

Quote from: Engine;223477Oh, no. I just wanted to compare her physically to my own ex-girlfriends as a proxy for determining whether I'm better than you are.

:pics:
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