Quote from: Biscuitician;976201The point is simply that there is no valid reason why the Doctor shouldn't be female.

That's why i said it was fallacious.

Now, you can certainly say it's your preference that the doctor be male, but that opens a discussion as to why you might think that and i would assert something very unpopular around here but that's ever so slightly off topic.

I get that up to this point all the actors have been male. But how about at the very least give the girl a chance - unlike some of the manbabies crying on the intertwitter.

No valid reason, I could say precedence or even preference are reason enough for my personal opinion? Since these are not unsound arguments they are hardly fallacious.

You can assert what you want I'm fairly certain your incapable of ascertaining my thoughts.

I don't need to give her a chance, I know her to be a fantastic actress but she won't be Dr Who to me.

I certainly hope the show succeeds though it's about time young girls had strong representative role models, I just won't be watching it.

Quote from: HorusArisen;976218I certainly hope the show succeeds though it's about time young girls had strong representative role models,

All the women actors and roles before this were weak?

Quote from: Ratman_tf;976224All the women actors and roles before this were weak?

No but proportionally there are less female led shows. Although thinking about it I'm not sure this statement is as true as it was.

I'd prefer original shows rather than appropriating an existing one but I'm not going to wish it to fail just because I'm not watching it.

Quote from: HorusArisen;976234No but proportionally there are less female led shows. Although thinking about it I'm not sure this statement is as true as it was.

QuoteI'd prefer original shows rather than appropriating an existing one but I'm not going to wish it to fail just because I'm not watching it.

Me too.

I'm still holding out for Tom Baker to come back and show people what Dr. Who really is.

Also holding out for Blakes 7 to come back...so much better than Dr. Who ever was!

Quote from: Dumarest;976291I'm still holding out for Tom Baker to come back and show people what Dr. Who really is.

Also holding out for Blakes 7 to come back...so much better than Dr. Who ever was!

Sapphire &a Steel for the win

Quote from: Biscuitician;975951You were warned!

So the new showrunner ushers in the era of the first female actor to play the lead in Dr Who.

Let's have it, you cucks!

If they have interesting stories to tell? Who cares! But I'm still not convinced they're doing it for any other reason than to pander, and I think a lot of people are up in arms not for adding more female characters, but for replacing previously male ones. Sadly the gender change is so overwhelmingly prioritized by fans online (including yourself) that #JodieWhittaker will have a hard time being judged by anything other than it.

And for the record, the first time #TheDoctor was given #DalekBumps was when #JoannaLumley took the role in 1999 for #StevenMoffat's Comic Relief production of "The Curse of Fatal Death", which you can (and should) watch on either the Comic Relief or Doctor Who channel.

#IllExplainLater

P.S. #Prydonian girls were always the hottest

If I'm reading a Doctor Who serial comic written by Alan Moore and suddenly the Doctor changes into a woman I'll go with it. Because I trust Alan Moore, and I know he has a point to make, a story to tell, something to add to the mythos by changing the character like that.

However after years and years of Steven Moffat, Missy, Amy Pond and general silliness sprinkled all over mediocre (and some admittedly good episodes, yes) I do feel that this change was made to pander to the SJW crowd and to generate buzz. Already there is  talk of the "harsh backlash" from terrible, terrible cavemen crying their "male tears." Everything according to plan, of course. Another male character has been conquered by "feminism," and this we call progress; If you don't like it you're a sexist pig. Please grow up and grab a copy of the latest Iron Man comic with a black teenage girl in place of Tony Stark on your way out, BROFLAKE!

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40626596

And the media chucks all the women in sci-fi who came before, under the bus for the narrative. I guess women before 2017 didn't matter?

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;976013Personally I bought her fully as the master. But if she didn't persuade you, she didn't persuade you.

Derek Jacobi was excellent as the master. We got him so briefly but what little we had was magnificent. My only complaint is how brief his stay was. But I suppose with time travel, it is entirely possible for him to make another appearance.

I liked Missy. Also Derek Jacobi did also voice The Master in Scream of the Shalka.

Quote from: jeff37923;975997If the first female Doctor Who isn't Helen Mirren or Jenny Agutter, then who cares?

That distinction went to Joanna Lumley in the 1999 Red Nose parody Curse of the Fatal Death.

Quote from: Krimson;976462That distinction went to Joanna Lumley in the 1999 Red Nose parody Curse of the Fatal Death.

They should really make Rowan Atkinson an official Doctor from his performance in that (however brief his tenure was).

Quote from: jeff37923;976213Because who the fuck is Jodie Whittaker? Never heard of her.

Remember when I told you to look up the word gravitas? This relates to that word.

I think it's better to cast relative unknowns for the role of the Doctor. People come up with big celebrity wish lists, but I'd rather have a new Doctor be someone you get to know through the show.

There is also the fact that Helen Mirren is 71, which puts her 12 years past the retirement age of any previous Doctor. I don't think she would be interested in the least in running down hallways for a full season of television.

Quote from: Baulderstone;976468I think it's better to cast relative unknowns for the role of the Doctor. People come up with big celebrity wish lists, but I'd rather have a new Doctor be someone you get to know through the show.

There is also the fact that Helen Mirren is 71, which puts her 12 years past the retirement age of any previous Doctor. I don't think she would be interested in the least in running down hallways for a full season of television.

One of the reasons peter is leaving is because of the workload. the BBC expects way too much of the actors. Not just the actual filming, but all the ancillary stuff they have to do, like attending every comicon in the world, endless press and screenings and all sorts of stuff, meet and greet, youtube. THe BBC really needs to get a grip, but it's clear that the franchise, now, is less about the actual show and more about selling the brand.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;976467They should really make Rowan Atkinson an official Doctor from his performance in that (however brief his tenure was).

I really wanted to see that. He certainly put his Black Adder wit to good use.