Quote from: RPGPunditDave, please point out to me recent occasions (as in, the last month or so) where he's done the above, after I had specifically warned him about it, in particular regarding Koltar, who was one of the specific people I'd warned him to stop shitting on in that way.

If you can show me that he's been threadcrapping RPG threads with off-topic personal attacks, then you're onto something. I hadn't seen any lately, but then I'm on vacation, and reading far fewer threads than what I usually do.

RPGpundit

OK.  All of these are from March or April.

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=92437#post92437

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=89465#post89465

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=87837#post87837

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=84430#post84430

All from rpg topics as opposed to Off topic stuff (which is more of an argument between him and poster X).  However all of them happened after he was warned not to arbitrarily attack people.

I'm conflicted on the subject, really.

So far I've been working on the "ignore him and he might shut up" approach. I mean, I almost wrote a reply post to his thing about pork bombs pointing out that a) in such a scenario, Islamic law would not prohibit Muslims from touching pork so it wouldn't work anyway and b) he was a fuckwit. But then I realised that this would only lead to him posting more on the subject. This policy may be misguided, I don't know.

I wouldn't be crying myself to sleep if he got banned, but I think much can be achieved by either ignoring his puerile wannabe-shocking bigotry and/or showering him with belittling derision.

Quote from: Sacrificial LambAssyrian, you're saying so many sensible things in this thread, that I'd have to keep responding to each of your posts and saying, "I agree." I'm not used to that. Keep it up.

Thanks!  


TGA

Quote from: Dominus NoxHaving had my garage set fire to once and recieving death threats in my early BBS/internet days...

Well you *are* a charming person, after all.


TGA

As everytime before, I´m against a ban.

Quote from: StumpydaveOK.  All of these are from March or April.

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=92437#post92437

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=89465#post89465

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=87837#post87837

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=84430#post84430

All from rpg topics as opposed to Off topic stuff (which is more of an argument between him and poster X).  However all of them happened after he was warned not to arbitrarily attack people.

Your second and third link actually make a better case for disciplining Koltar, since he was asked not to get up in Nox's grill.

And to be honest, if your links are the worst Nox has been up to then things are nearly as bad as everyone is making them out to be.

I'm sorry jrients, I need you to repeat your first sentence. I had something retarded in my eyes.

'cause it really looks like you're telling us Koltar's not allowed to respond to some RPG related threads because The Magical Sky Pixies With Guitars And Shit can't keep their hate boners in their fucking pants.

I don't see anything from Koltar but a response on a topic he's also interested - GURPS sci-fi and Traveller specifically - for which the Magical Sky Pixies do their usual thing. The usual thing they were asked not to do.

Quote from: Christmas ApeI'm sorry jrients, I need you to repeat your first sentence. I had something retarded in my eyes.

'cause it really looks like you're telling us Koltar's not allowed to respond to some RPG related threads because The Magical Sky Pixies With Guitars And Shit can't keep their hate boners in their fucking pants.

I don't see anything from Koltar but a response on a topic he's also interested - GURPS sci-fi and Traveller specifically - for which the Magical Sky Pixies do their usual thing. The usual thing they were asked not to do.

While I can't hold a candle to the Ape's colorful expression, I agree with his assessment of the second and third link.

Unless you consider responding to an RPG related post with RPG information getting up in his grill solely based on the original poster. It's not like Koltar was untoward in any way. Does this mean Koltar can't respond to any thread once The Magical Sky Pixies With Guitars And Shit post, or is it just threads started by The Magical Sky Pixies With Guitars And Shit?

If this is where this is going, I want to change my vote. Since I can't, I'm going to start using Ape's approach.

Shit.  I was not clear enough.  I'm not saying that we should discipline Koltar.  The only point I was trying to make is that the first thing that came to mind in those threads was "Koltar's in a Nox thread?  WTF?  I thought we had some sort of deal keeping those two on opposite sides of the room?"  I'm not advocating harshing on anyone.  Sorry to rile you up with an ill-phrased remark!

Can I make an observation?  Part of the problem with this whole situation is that half the folks are arguing about Nox's situation in particular and half are arguing about generalities.  Yes, we want consistent modding on the board, but I also support looking at the context of each admin action.  Part of the context in Nox's case is that I perceive that he has settled down somewhat in the past few months.  Yes, he continues to be an idiot.  Yes, he continues to say stupid things.  But compared to previously, his blatherings look like background noise.  And I find him ignorable much of the time, even though (unlike all y'all) I don't have the option of putting him on IL.

And maybe that's what is freaking me out here.  Why aren't more folks just ILing the guy?  He grates on me, but I can tolerate him without using an IL.

One last thing:  No one does any disciplining on this site except for Pundit.  Unless you want to count that I ban spammers.  Even if you thought I was an idiot for wanting to smack around some user the discussion would be theoretical because Pundit is the only one who does the smacking.

Quote from: jrientsYour second and third link actually make a better case for disciplining Koltar, since he was asked not to get up in Nox's grill.

And to be honest, if your links are the worst Nox has been up to then things are nearly as bad as everyone is making them out to be.

I stuck purposefully to rpg discussions because I didn't think it was fair or relevant to wail on Nox for posts where he was worse but there was a definite element of antagonism from all sides.

However given the history between Nox and Koltar, and the warning given by Pundit to both of them, Koltar managed to keep his discussions civil and relevant whilst Nox didn't.  I don't recall either of them being told they couldn't participate in the same thread.  Just to not go out of each others way to snipe.

I usually try to be civil.
 Some might have misinterpreted this as "sucking up".
 There was a part thread where Pundit said to Nox - that I/Koltar could post in any thread I wanted to . (just like anybody else)

 One of those posts cited  I think I was responding to something that David Johansen said. (in a friendly way , note )

 I am trying to fit within the boundaries or parameters that Pundit gave me a while ago.

- Ed C.

Constant reminders to someone that you are ignoring them is, IMO, most definitely "getting up in their grill."

Quote from: KoltarI usually try to be civil.
 Some might have misinterpreted this as "sucking up".
 There was a part thread where Pundit said to Nox - that I/Koltar could post in any thread I wanted to . (just like anybody else)

 One of those posts cited  I think I was responding to something that David Johansen said. (in a friendly way , note )

 I am trying to fit within the boundaries or parameters that Pundit gave me a while ago.

- Ed C.

And, and this is a very fucking important question: do you feel like you are being stalked by Nox?

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPunditAnd, and this is a very fucking important question: do you feel like you are being stalked by Nox?

RPGPundit

 NO , I don't.

 Wasn't expecting that question.

If an individual acting strangely shows up at the Mall I work at and I had to call the police and Mall security  - I'll let you know.

 Since what I mostly see is a thin line that says : You have this user on ignore.
 I only see his comments when people quote him.

- Ed C.

Quote from: WerekoalaRoot around in here a bit:

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4460&page=9

I'm pretty sure its in there somewhere. If not, damn close.

He doesn't even scream "Death to Muslims!!!" in that one, much less threaten the lives of any large group.