Quote from: The Good AssyrianYou do realize the delicious irony of this coming from someone calling themselves Gunslinger...  

Shotguns, Doc Holiday style.  

Quote from: Zachary The FirstYeah, there are some quality issues if you're looking at the US-made ones of a few years ago. Friend of mine had one (not sure on model), and said the action was really rough.  Glocks are dreamy, but you want to watch where they're made. Don't know if this is still the case..

The problems I saw where with Glocks made maybe about 12 years ago when the company first started manufacturing them in Georgia due to the restrictions of the assault weapon importation ban, as I recall.  A couple of friends bought them on my recommendation and were really disappointed with the reliability and smoothness of the action and ended up selling them and getting other pistols instead.  I am sure that these issues have been worked out since then, but I am sticking with my Austrian-made Glock all the same.


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Quote from: GunslingerShotguns, Doc Holiday style.  

Sweet...


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9mm. Pfeh.

M-1911, custom built and accurized by my father, back in the day, with Black Talon rounds. Who needs double stacked clips? Just make sure that you hit your target.

Quote from: The Good AssyrianListen to Technomancer here, Joe.  Kahr pistols rock the house.  I have a Kahr PM9 and, with the exception of my Austrian Glock, it has been the best gun purchase I ever made.  Light, slim, and feels great.  It is not the most comfortable shooter if you are using +P loads, but it's not bad.

Thank you TGA, and Technomancer.  I hadn't tried the Kahr before, when I get back up to Chi-town I'll rent one and try it out.

I'm not a big fan of +P rounds, if I want more power to my 9mm, I'll buy a .40S&W.

I haven't had the opportunity to fire a Glock, but I hear they're sweet!   Might be out of my price range, though.

Quote from: One Horse TownAs an Englishman, i still have to give a double-take when i see threads like this.

Carry on...

I never noticed you were an Englishman...must be the handle.

I can only imagine how weird this kinda thread looks to you!

Don't like the 9mm +P?  I grew up reading Massad Ayoob prescribe them for anything this side of Ragnarok, so I'm interested in your line of thinking.

If you already have a full-size .357, maybe something in a carry revolver?  Does Illinois have a "shall issue" law?

EDIT: I :mario: the 2nd Amendment.

Quote from: Dominus NoxThe english government likes having it's people nice and unarmed, so you can't do anything about it putting cameras everywhere, installing monitor devices in cars so it can track your every movement, etc.

Yeah, 'cos otherwise, we'd shoot those fuckers dead.

Quote from: joewolzI never noticed you were an Englishman...must be the handle.

I can only imagine how weird this kinda thread looks to you!

I've never seen a gun, mate. Something i'm quite happy to report. Still, i can't help but feel left out when these threads turn up...I want an Uzi, motherfucker!

Now, a thread about knives, i can understand...

Quote from: fonkaygarryDon't like the 9mm +P?  I grew up reading Massad Ayoob prescribe them for anything this side of Ragnarok, so I'm interested in your line of thinking.

If you already have a full-size .357, maybe something in a carry revolver?  Does Illinois have a "shall issue" law?

EDIT: I :mario: the 2nd Amendment.

Illinois has no provision whatsoever for the carrying of firearms.  In fact, you have to have a Firearms Owner Identification Card to own firearms or ammunition legally.  Five counties and many municipalities in Illinois have made handguns illegal altogether.

If I ever make it out of the People's Republic of Illinois, I do plan on getting a stainless 5 shot .38 for carry.  I really prefer revolvers to autos, and I can't figure out for the life of me why.

I'd love to drop a huge, complicated and well-reasoned argument for not liking 9mm+P, but since I have to make dinner, and because I don't have a huge reason I'll boil it down:  Since I plan on using Hydra-Shok ammunition (or something similar), I really don't need the extra power in a +P, and can't justify the extra cost.  I mean, really, will that extra 250lbs or pressure make a difference on someone not wearing a vest?

Quote from: joewolzThank you TGA, and Technomancer.  I hadn't tried the Kahr before, when I get back up to Chi-town I'll rent one and try it out.

I'm not a big fan of +P rounds, if I want more power to my 9mm, I'll buy a .40S&W.

I haven't had the opportunity to fire a Glock, but I hear they're sweet!   Might be out of my price range, though.

Np problem!  Good luck in your search and trying them out for yourself is the right way to go.  With different hand sizes, etc. you just don't know how it feels until you shoot it for yourself.

As for 9mm +P, many Kahr pistols are optimized for concealed carry and their .40 S&W model is a wee bit bigger than the 9mm and has one less round in the magazine, so if you are looking for that in your new gun it may be a factor.  I also found my PM9 on sale, so I decided to go with that and just use +P ammo.  It also simplifies the ammo purchasing as I already own a 9mm Glock.  I would have considered buying a .40 S&W Glock over the years (it wasn't available back when I bought mine), but as I said I am not giving up my Austrian Glock 17 anytime soon.  Don't mess with something with works for you already, I always say.


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Quote from: joewolzI mean, really, will that extra 250lbs or pressure make a difference on someone not wearing a vest?

What the Hell are you using this for?  :confused:

Quote from: GunslingerWhat the Hell are you using this for?  :confused:

Killing people who want to hurt him.  Same thing that all handguns are made for.

Quote from: One Horse TownNow, a thread about knives, i can understand...

OHT, you study Silat or Kali?  I've been wanting to do a little practice with a knife art.

Quote from: One Horse TownI want an Uzi, motherfucker!

Your wish is my command!





TGA