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I think the dislike of democracy comes from the misguided notion that people are fuckwits who shouldn't be allowed to decide what happens to them.

That's a dangerous notion, one that I equate with fertilizer, if you catch my drift.

It's much easier with an absolute ruler, but then, you get fuck-all to say about what goes on in your nation. Don't like it? Go fuck off. And if you think that you're going to be one of the few that matter, I've got a notion for you... you won't. You'd be just as fucked as the rest of us, just as voiceless, and maybe that's what you want. If you feel helpless already, it's not much of a step down to absolute ruler, is it? And in that case, you're not even supposed to question, so it takes a weight of your mind.

In the case of a bad ruler, do you think you get to kill him? Not without a bullet in your chest, you won't.

Nations without democracy arn't evil, but the actions of the nation are only as good as their infrastructure. America isn't perfect by a long fucking shot, but I'd at least prefer the pretense of working with the populace. As bad as it is, there's a limited time that a ruler can screw up the buisness before we boot them out because they still have to follow the rules.

Simply put, I'm not voting on the poll, because I think polls are bollacks. But I'm going on the record as saying that monarchy is ass, and representative and democractic governments are superior.

Me as World Emporer would really be optimal, but aside from that democracy.

Quote from: AosMe as World Emporer would really be optimal...

It's a good job, if you can get it.

That french phrase  capitalist kind of democracy.
 I can pronounce it - but I'm so fucking sleepy  right now - couldn't spell it worth a damn .

The one John Galt and Howard Roark would like.

Dagmy Taggart too.


- Ed C.

Quote from: KoltarThat french phrase  capitalist kind of democracy.
 I can pronounce it - but I'm so fucking sleepy  right now - couldn't spell it worth a damn .

The one John Galt and Howard Roark would like.

Dagmy Taggart too.


- Ed C.

Do you mean laissez-faire?

Quote from: ElectroKittyDo you mean laissez-faire?

 BINGO!! My feline colleague has it correct .

 Still not feeling much better.
 Feel like I've been run over by a motorcycle gang  who concentrated on my neck , shoulders and back - and not in a good way .



- Ed C.

Quote from: KoltarThat french phrase  capitalist kind of democracy.
- Ed C.

Laissez-faire seems like a good idea until it beats the shit out of you and takes your lunch money.

You think you're going to come out of that exchange the winner, Koltar? Oh man, that is not what would happen.

Besides, like communism, laissez-faire is an economic system, which isn't quite the same thing.

Democracy sounds great, but its government by committee.  And as such every proposal gets watered down by compromise until its neutered by its opponents.
Plus true democracy doesn't exist - at least not in Britain - with our quaint first past the post system.  So I can cast my vote and have no account made of my wants for the country.  If no account is going to be made of my vote, then at least let me have decisive leadership instead of the compromised crap that serves no one except career politicians.

Decisive leadership, eh? What if the decision is the wrong one? You'd be ok with that, provided a decisive decision was made? I hope the decider doesn't decide to decide something that screws you over.

Ultimately, the "best" form of government is a genuinely benign dictatorship/monarchy. Unfortunately, such never has existed and never will exist. In lieu of such a non-existant utopia, representative democracy (i.e. a republic such as the United States or (yes, I said it) France) is the best we'll likely ever get.

Quote from: ElectroKittyDecisive leadership, eh? What if the decision is the wrong one? You'd be ok with that, provided a decisive decision was made? I hope the decider doesn't decide to decide something that screws you over.

Ultimately, the "best" form of government is a genuinely benign dictatorship/monarchy. Unfortunately, such never has existed and never will exist. In lieu of such a non-existant utopia, representative democracy (i.e. a republic such as the United States or (yes, I said it) France) is the best we'll likely ever get.

In a long paraphrase of, I beleive, Winston Churchil, yes?

Representative democracy where every act of government must be approved unanimously by all representatives.  That way governmnet can't do anything unless it really really is good for the whole country.

I think that anarchy is the best form of political life available to mankind. I think so because anarchy is the only form of political life that allows the total development of the rational autonomy of the individual without the threat of force by others.

I don't think we're quite ready to adopt it yet, but I think we can and should work towards it theoretically, politically, and technologically, and that relatively soon, we will be ready for it. In the mean time, I'm fond of various forms of democracy and societies with a strong respect for personal rights.

Quote from: James J SkachIn a long paraphrase of, I beleive, Winston Churchil, yes?

Basically, yeah.

Democratic Republic.  No money allowed for campaigning.  One term only.  Absolutely no money allowed to pass to the representatives from ANYBODY, and no "gifts" or positions after their term has passed.