Quote from: Chris24601 on September 10, 2023, 08:40:11 AM
In terms of droids there are some with as many as six characters in canon; with 36 characters (26 letters, 10 digits) that gives something like only 2.17 billion combinations. My guess is droid names are mostly shortened serial numbers (or a model/variant code minus the serial number... so R2-series, variant D2, serial number xxxxxxxxxx; or R2-D2 for short).

Basically there's a lot of R2-D2's out there... just like there are a lot of people named John Smith's out there.

As to Anakin, dedicated fans have noted that Anakin is wearing the black trimmed saber he used as Vader, so my guess would be this is Anakin's Force Ghost.

There's been years of speculation that Filoni would use the World Between Worlds to undo the Sequel Trilogy (starting with the very logo itself when announced resembling the appearance of structures in that realm). But I think instead (probably because the Mouse won't let him) he's going to write around it by moving most of the characters he cares about who didn't appear in the ST over to this new galaxy where he can just ignore the ST.

Man, I wish I could get the episodes to load.

My opinion is that the best way to deal with the sequel trilogy and the worst of Disney Star Wars is to simply ignore it and let lack of exposure do the work of erasing it. Making it a part of some story isn't worth the time and effort.

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Ah, the episodes are loading for me tonight and I'm getting caught up. I see what you were saying now.
I dunno. Leaving the galaxy means leaving the established SW universe behind. It's an idea, but it feels like an unsatisfying one.

Basically, we know what droid names are like. At least for civilian main character droids.

I think the Prequel era battle droids had a more serial-number like name.

We've also seen stormtroopers and former imperials using rank and number to refer to themselves in formal channels.

As for Anakin, we'll probably find out what's up by five minutes into the next episode. He's probably a force ghost, we'll see.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 10, 2023, 07:02:24 PM
My opinion is that the best way to deal with the sequel trilogy and the worst of Disney Star Wars is to simply ignore it and let lack of exposure do the work of erasing it. Making it a part of some story isn't worth the time and effort.

*Edit*

Ah, the episodes are loading for me tonight and I'm getting caught up. I see what you were saying now.
I dunno. Leaving the galaxy means leaving the established SW universe behind. It's an idea, but it feels like an unsatisfying one.

Yeah, the problem with the ST is it retroactively poisons the OT. Future projects pretending those films don't exist is like using Bondo to cover over a rusting car frame... the rot is still there eating away at the body.

It's also been subtly poisoning all the other projects because no matter how good they individually are, we all know it ends up with the ST crap (one reason I think Mando did okay was because he nor Grogu were referenced in the ST you could imagine them steering clear of all the ST's shit and having a happy ending).

Doing something in a new galaxy by carrying a few established characters over to it is analogous to buying a new car and taking the fuzzy dice from your beloved classic to put on the rearview mirror while leaving your classic to rot.

In the sense of being a science-fantasy story/transportation it does the job, buts it's not so much Star Wars/your classic car.

That's why, frankly, I think the "in universe retcon" holds so much appeal to so many people. Yeah, it's way more work than Bondo or buying a new car, but it actually fixes what's actually wrong with the franchise/vehicle (for those who, for whatever reason, love Rey... she could still exist in the new timeline; but the First Order/reborn Emperor would have never happened).

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Anyway, my prediction for next episode is Asohka will figure out how to commune with the space whales and use them to carry the rest of the heroes going on this exodus to the new galaxy.

I think one of the problems with the way they are handling Ahsoka is that they are treating the other characters as subordinate to her, which means Hera and Sabine can't speak openly as friends, and she can't let down her guard.

Making Sabine a padawan has just been a really bad idea.

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 11, 2023, 08:24:24 AM

That's why, frankly, I think the "in universe retcon" holds so much appeal to so many people. Yeah, it's way more work than Bondo or buying a new car, but it actually fixes what's actually wrong with the franchise/vehicle (for those who, for whatever reason, love Rey... she could still exist in the new timeline; but the First Order/reborn Emperor would have never happened).

My concern is that the people who made those sequels *cough*Kennedy*cough* are still at Lucasfilm/Disney, and even if they retconned the sequels, they could bring their terrible ideas over to the retconned continuity. Or start some crazy continuity fight where the two continuties intentionally conflict each other.
Hell, the "Remnant" time period is terribly hit or miss as it is.

Ep 3.

1. Please, never ever use percentages when reporting shields. That got so tiresome in Star Trek when they'd try to generate tension by... counting down percentages. Say "Shields are failing!" instead.

2. The space walk scene was fine to me. She did a space cartwheel and could easily have used the Force to nudge herself back towards the hull, and it wasn't overplayed since she did wind up detached and floating towards the end.

I'm enjoying it. It feels like Star Wars.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 12, 2023, 08:05:07 AM
I'm enjoying it. It feels like Star Wars.

ditto. it's good enough that i'm willing to overlook stuff i don't care for.

Episode 5 has dropped, and it is amazing.

More on Saturday.

*Shit. My sense of what day it is gets screwy because my schedule is weird. I keep thinking thursday is saturday.  Nuked my comment until Sat.*

Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 11, 2023, 08:38:57 AM

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 11, 2023, 08:24:24 AM

That's why, frankly, I think the "in universe retcon" holds so much appeal to so many people. Yeah, it's way more work than Bondo or buying a new car, but it actually fixes what's actually wrong with the franchise/vehicle (for those who, for whatever reason, love Rey... she could still exist in the new timeline; but the First Order/reborn Emperor would have never happened).

My concern is that the people who made those sequels *cough*Kennedy*cough* are still at Lucasfilm/Disney, and even if they retconned the sequels, they could bring their terrible ideas over to the retconned continuity. Or start some crazy continuity fight where the two continuties intentionally conflict each other.
Hell, the "Remnant" time period is terribly hit or miss as it is.

You end up with retcon wars like in comics and why theres the misapplied joke of death being a revolving door. It isnt in comics, usually, it is really some new writer not liking something someone did and undoing it. I know a few Marvel writers who despised the sensless killing off of some sideline characters and just waited for a chance and undid it. And round and round.

Quote from: Omega on September 16, 2023, 06:58:38 AM

Quote from: Ratman_tf on September 11, 2023, 08:38:57 AM

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 11, 2023, 08:24:24 AM

That's why, frankly, I think the "in universe retcon" holds so much appeal to so many people. Yeah, it's way more work than Bondo or buying a new car, but it actually fixes what's actually wrong with the franchise/vehicle (for those who, for whatever reason, love Rey... she could still exist in the new timeline; but the First Order/reborn Emperor would have never happened).

My concern is that the people who made those sequels *cough*Kennedy*cough* are still at Lucasfilm/Disney, and even if they retconned the sequels, they could bring their terrible ideas over to the retconned continuity. Or start some crazy continuity fight where the two continuties intentionally conflict each other.
Hell, the "Remnant" time period is terribly hit or miss as it is.

You end up with retcon wars like in comics and why theres the misapplied joke of death being a revolving door. It isnt in comics, usually, it is really some new writer not liking something someone did and undoing it. I know a few Marvel writers who despised the sensless killing off of some sideline characters and just waited for a chance and undid it. And round and round.

To be fair, Disney already retconned things once when they nuked the old EU and said "that never happened" with the promise their creative team would create something even better.

I still miss Mara Jade, Talon Carrde, Jaina, Jacen and Anakin Solo, Lowbacca, Tenel Ka Djo, Tahiri Veila, Jagged Fel, Ben Skywalker, and all the younger generation (even Vestara Khai) that Disney nuked for Rey Palpatine and the shells of characters that inhabited the Sequel Trilogy.

Other than the stuff that could have just been part of the old EU (Mando and Asohka and Andor/Rogue One could all be squint canoned into the EU if it preceded Heir to the Empire) there's nothing of value in the ST as compared to what they already retconned away.

So if they can do it once they could do it again. They won't. But they could.

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Quote from: Chris24601 on September 16, 2023, 08:12:52 AM

To be fair, Disney already retconned things once when they nuked the old EU and said "that never happened" with the promise their creative team would create something even better.

I still miss Mara Jade, Talon Carrde, Jaina, Jacen and Anakin Solo, Lowbacca, Tenel Ka Djo, Tahiri Veila, Jagged Fel, Ben Skywalker, and all the younger generation (even Vestara Khai) that Disney nuked for Rey Palpatine and the shells of characters that inhabited the Sequel Trilogy.

Other than the stuff that could have just been part of the old EU (Mando and Asohka and Andor/Rogue One could all be squint canoned into the EU if it preceded Heir to the Empire) there's nothing of value in the ST as compared to what they already retconned away.

So if they can do it once they could do it again. They won't. But they could.

I never found the EU to be all that compelling. For every good idea, there was something absolutely terrible, like the ysalamiri or the Yuuzhan Vong.

I think declaring them noncanon, and then selectively bringing back the good bits, has proven to be a good plan.

Frankly, I want to give the sequel trilogy the same treatment.

Ok, you guys have changed my mind Ahsoka is actually great.

My comment from thursday, recycled!

I liked episode 5, except for the "dream sequence". I guess I understand if they were bringing people new to the franchise up to speed, but I found all the live action Clone Wars stuff a boring rehash.