Weapons are only as deadly as the script requires.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 27, 2023, 02:34:55 PM
Weapons are only as deadly as the script requires.

And if you actually read up on forensics, the results of injuries in real life can be pretty incredibly random. There are people who dropped at the sound of a gunshot that failed to hit them, while others are shot through the heart and run away.

People online are going crazy for Marrok, the Inquisitor who fights Ahsoka at the Corellian Shipyards.

There has been speculation that he is everyone from Ezra Bridger to a Luke Skywalker clone.

I think he's just a skilled henchman played by a talented performer. I don't see Ezra or Luke wanting to use an Inquisitor saber.

In general, though, the villains in this show are pretty well done, and we haven't even gotten to see Thrawn yet.

Episode 3 tonight at 9pm EST.

Quote from: Lurkndog on August 27, 2023, 10:24:01 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 27, 2023, 02:34:55 PM
Weapons are only as deadly as the script requires.

And if you actually read up on forensics, the results of injuries in real life can be pretty incredibly random. There are people who dropped at the sound of a gunshot that failed to hit them, while others are shot through the heart and run away.

And if you actually watched star Wars you'd know light sabers are hot enough to melt metal, I imagine she could also survive the same wound if caused by the torch they use to cut concrete no?

Truth is she survives because the show says so, plot armor.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 29, 2023, 12:11:14 PM

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Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 27, 2023, 02:34:55 PM
Weapons are only as deadly as the script requires.

And if you actually read up on forensics, the results of injuries in real life can be pretty incredibly random. There are people who dropped at the sound of a gunshot that failed to hit them, while others are shot through the heart and run away.

And if you actually watched star Wars you'd know light sabers are hot enough to melt metal, I imagine she could also survive the same wound if caused by the torch they use to cut concrete no?

If the torch flames were already jetting out the other side there's not going to be much heat transfer and the wound was pretty much instantly cauterized.

I find it less believable that Qui-Gon died of his gut stab than Sabine surviving where a plasma jet shot her clean through.

Quote from: Chris24601 on August 29, 2023, 01:43:59 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 29, 2023, 12:11:14 PM

Quote from: Lurkndog on August 27, 2023, 10:24:01 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 27, 2023, 02:34:55 PM
Weapons are only as deadly as the script requires.

And if you actually read up on forensics, the results of injuries in real life can be pretty incredibly random. There are people who dropped at the sound of a gunshot that failed to hit them, while others are shot through the heart and run away.

And if you actually watched star Wars you'd know light sabers are hot enough to melt metal, I imagine she could also survive the same wound if caused by the torch they use to cut concrete no?

If the torch flames were already jetting out the other side there's not going to be much heat transfer and the wound was pretty much instantly cauterized.

I find it less believable that Qui-Gon died of his gut stab than Sabine surviving where a plasma jet shot her clean through.

Unlike the torch I was talking about (which would cook everyhthing around the wound before exiting your body) a lightsaber is hot up until it reaches the hilt. So it's radiating thousands of F/C degrees inside your body for the whole time it's inside, even having the humanoid body be as poor at conducting heat as the human body it would mean you'll get cooked inside in a huge radious around the wound.

IDGAF one way or the other but your world has to be consistent internally for me to buy into it. Disney Wars isn't.

Episode Three has dropped. It is short, but it has some genuine moments of wonder in it.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 29, 2023, 02:07:08 PM

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Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 29, 2023, 12:11:14 PM

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Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 27, 2023, 02:34:55 PM
Weapons are only as deadly as the script requires.

And if you actually read up on forensics, the results of injuries in real life can be pretty incredibly random. There are people who dropped at the sound of a gunshot that failed to hit them, while others are shot through the heart and run away.

And if you actually watched star Wars you'd know light sabers are hot enough to melt metal, I imagine she could also survive the same wound if caused by the torch they use to cut concrete no?

If the torch flames were already jetting out the other side there's not going to be much heat transfer and the wound was pretty much instantly cauterized.

I find it less believable that Qui-Gon died of his gut stab than Sabine surviving where a plasma jet shot her clean through.

Unlike the torch I was talking about (which would cook everyhthing around the wound before exiting your body) a lightsaber is hot up until it reaches the hilt. So it's radiating thousands of F/C degrees inside your body for the whole time it's inside, even having the humanoid body be as poor at conducting heat as the human body it would mean you'll get cooked inside in a huge radious around the wound.

And yet Qui-Gonn only had a hole burned in him, instead of being cooked alive with melted and burning clothes. Not even a little singed except precisely where the blade passed through.

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Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 29, 2023, 02:07:08 PM

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Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 29, 2023, 12:11:14 PM

Quote from: Lurkndog on August 27, 2023, 10:24:01 PM

Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 27, 2023, 02:34:55 PM
Weapons are only as deadly as the script requires.

And if you actually read up on forensics, the results of injuries in real life can be pretty incredibly random. There are people who dropped at the sound of a gunshot that failed to hit them, while others are shot through the heart and run away.

And if you actually watched star Wars you'd know light sabers are hot enough to melt metal, I imagine she could also survive the same wound if caused by the torch they use to cut concrete no?

If the torch flames were already jetting out the other side there's not going to be much heat transfer and the wound was pretty much instantly cauterized.

I find it less believable that Qui-Gon died of his gut stab than Sabine surviving where a plasma jet shot her clean through.

Unlike the torch I was talking about (which would cook everyhthing around the wound before exiting your body) a lightsaber is hot up until it reaches the hilt. So it's radiating thousands of F/C degrees inside your body for the whole time it's inside, even having the humanoid body be as poor at conducting heat as the human body it would mean you'll get cooked inside in a huge radious around the wound.

And yet Qui-Gonn only had a hole burned in him, instead of being cooked alive with melted and burning clothes. Not even a little singed except precisely where the blade passed through.

Indeed, for the blade to radiate that amount of heat to be true (i.e. radiates enough heat to cook internal organs by mere proximity until you reach the hilt), then just holding a lightsaber in guard position near your face should be inflicting severe burns to their users.

All evidence from even the pre-Disney films is that lightsabers only transfer heat to precisely where the blade is in contact with it. Even Qui-Gon's door stab was just melting away metal. Any peripheral heating there was from transfer from the metal heated by the saber.

The only additional damage from a puncture wound like Sabine got would be if the saber was then moved side-to-side as it had already vaporized all the flesh inside the wound (and cauterized it) and the blade was sticking unimpeded out of her back (so all the energy wasn't being absorbed and cooking her innards).

It's sorta like how many times an armor piercing round will do less damage to a soft target because it's design to penetrate hard targets means it tends to just fly straight through a body with little energy transfer, just a wound channel (as compared to something like a hollow point that is designed to flatten and maximize energy transfer to a soft target).

Again, I find it less believable Qui-Gon died from his wound* than that Sabine survived hers.**

*what it vaporized is everything... that Qui-Gon lived long enough to say last words to Obi-Wan makes it odd that Star Wars medicine couldn't have saved him because it wasn't instantly fatal... the real reason is plot, but best guess trying to explain it is Maul's strike grazed the heart enough to impair but not stop function and he went into shock with medical help simply too far away to stabilize him in time).

** Sabine's hit was lower and to the side. The scar shown would have gone through the intestines and maybe grazed a kidney. That's not even necessarily fatal in modern times, much less when there's someone with an already running starship right there to rush you to a hospital only minutes away, you're going to get priority treatment as a hero of the planet and you have Star Wars medical magic.

Shin Hati doesn't leave Sabine impaled on her lightsaber to get cooked like the blast doors in Phantom Menace. She stabs Sabine with the tip of the saber, then withdraws the lightsaber immediately so that she can resume her defense against Sabine's saber.

She doesn't run Sabine through to the hilt, which Darth Maul definitely did to Qui-Gon.

Quote from: Chris24601 on August 30, 2023, 08:09:31 AM
*what it vaporized is everything... that Qui-Gon lived long enough to say last words to Obi-Wan makes it odd that Star Wars medicine couldn't have saved him because it wasn't instantly fatal... the real reason is plot, but best guess trying to explain it is Maul's strike grazed the heart enough to impair but not stop function and he went into shock with medical help simply too far away to stabilize him in time).

Considering it was a dead-center stab, I'd think Maul put it through Qui-Gonn's spine. Sabine's wound was noticeably off-center.

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Welp, I haven't been able to get episode 2 to load for a day or two now. I dunno what it is with Disney+ and my computer...

Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 30, 2023, 10:00:05 AM
Welp, I haven't been able to get episode 2 to load for a day or two now. I dunno what it is with Disney+ and my computer...

Sorry you are having so much trouble watching your subscription. Could it be your antivirus or adblock that Disney+ doesn't like?

The third one has me raising some eyebrows.

The "really? C'mon..." kind.

Yeah, the show continues to be a bit slow and uninspired.  Asohka is, I don't know, too serene and self assured.  I get that she's not a kid anymore but where's that fire that she had?  I'm not sold on Sabine as a Jedi apprentice either.

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Sabine is continuing her "Jedi" training, and once again, Ahsoka is trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole. Sabine, to her credit, sticks with it, and seems to be learning to use the senses she does have to a greater degree. But why isn't she training in her armor?

We switch to a holoconference between Hera and 5 New Republic senators. The theme of the New Republic sucking is reinforced. I hate that meme. It just seems lazy. Why does the New Republic suck? Are the wrong people in charge? Are they just useless pacifists? What happened to the people that won the Rebellion?

Also, why does a General need the approval of the Senate to investigate threats within New Republic territory?
If she can't send a task force, she should at least have the authority to send out a patrol.

At the very least, there are known criminals and traitors operating on Seatos, possessing high-grade stolen military hardware, and that should be pursued as a police/security action.

It's nice seeing Hera's son Jacen. His father was a Jedi, Kanan Jarrus, formerly Caleb Dume.

And as soon as they detected comms being jammed across an entire system, they should have turned around, gotten clear, and reported the fact. That alone should have justified a New Republic response.

Ahsoka trying to fight the bad guys in a spacesuit was ridiculous, but it is typical bad guy logic to engage her on her terms instead of just shooting her ship out from under her.

On the plus side, those purgills looked awesome, even better than the ones in Mando season 3.

And, ultimately, our heroes prevailed and got the info on the villains' operation.

I also liked that Ahsoka was wise enough to defer to Sabine during the dogfight, and that they became a lot more effective that way.