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Actors will be replaced! Our Glorious AI Future Begins

Started by hedgehobbit, August 21, 2023, 07:12:44 PM

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consolcwby

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on January 10, 2025, 07:03:40 PMYou're absolutely sure that isn't going to have unintended consequences that you'll regret?
If an AI writes, directs, stars, and edits it - with todays technology - it will be the most hilarious horror movie of all time! Better than youtubepoop but just as consequential and nonsensical! XD

hedgehobbit

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on January 10, 2025, 07:03:40 PMYou're absolutely sure that isn't going to have unintended consequences that you'll regret?

What is there to regret? Hollywood has only been around a little over 100 years. If it disappeared tomorrow we haven't lost anything, we are just going back to normal.

If you think about it, visual stories limited to two hours is just a byproduct of the movie theater. Something that has been obsolete for almost 20 years now. The only reason movies exist today is nostalgia.

Banjo Destructo

I do hope that AI disrupts hollywood.  If real film makers who want to tell stories are able to make movies cheaper because of AI, good,  movies with good stories and ideas will succeed and crappy braindead hollywood movies will continue to fail.

Omega

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on January 01, 2025, 04:25:42 PMCan AI voice acting actually convey emotion? I've seen it used all over youtube and it only ever speaks in a robotic monotone. I played a game that used AI voice acting a few weeks ago and I can't remember any of it.

Some are getting better at inflections. But there are still problems that you tend to notice as they do not always inflect at the right time, or the reading is stilted. Theres this one guy who has like 50 different movie and anime review accounts and uses the same AI voicing for them all and for a bit it sounds human. But sooner or later it starts slipping up and the mask falls off. Doesnt help that I am pretty sure this joker is stealing reviews off the net.

Worse now there are "companies" that have started predating on writers and live voice actors to do readings. The reality is they are being used to train an AI that steals their writing and voices and the company owner keeps all the money.

This is one that blew up on YouTube and spilled over to Reddit's HFY writing channel.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/1hv30nc/on_the_ban_of_starboundhfy/

Banjo Destructo

Even if AI can't "DO" voices on its own, I think AI "Voice changers"  that can take the inflections and speech of one person, and change it to a different persons voice, will make producing films much cheaper.  Remember the days when video games would just use people in the office to do the voice work?  Well you can just have people do the voice work who aren't professional voice actors, and use AI to "Voice change" voices for the different characters that you want, bingo bango boom.   You won't need morgan freeman to do a morgan freeman voice, you won't even need a highly trained imitator, you just need someone who can talk kinda like him and then you can change the voice with AI to be similar.

orbitalair

Nope.  Just watched a YouTube video last nite.  The AI voice was perfect, until it hit 2 technical terms that it mis pronounced.  Other than that, the pace, time and inflections were very good. Sounded very natural.

Chris24601

Quote from: Banjo Destructo on January 29, 2025, 11:36:39 AMEven if AI can't "DO" voices on its own, I think AI "Voice changers"  that can take the inflections and speech of one person, and change it to a different persons voice, will make producing films much cheaper.  Remember the days when video games would just use people in the office to do the voice work?  Well you can just have people do the voice work who aren't professional voice actors, and use AI to "Voice change" voices for the different characters that you want, bingo bango boom.   You won't need morgan freeman to do a morgan freeman voice, you won't even need a highly trained imitator, you just need someone who can talk kinda like him and then you can change the voice with AI to be similar.
I've already seen this done in some YouTube shorts where some guy is flipping his voice to sound very close to a bunch of different Star Wars characters.

If you really listen you can tell it's just one person (the same general inflections and pauses), but they otherwise sounded just like the original voice actors.

BoxCrayonTales

No amount of tools will compensate for incompetence. Even if you replace actors with AI, then you're just moving the burden to whoever is instructing the AI. The instructor will still need to know how to act in order to construct a convincing simulacrum. Not only will they need to know how to act, they will need to display as much range as the group of actors they displaced.

The drawback of AI is that you're ceding control to a random number generator in order to save time and money, which ultimately hinders your creative vision.

Omega

Quote from: orbitalair on January 29, 2025, 01:25:16 PMNope.  Just watched a YouTube video last nite.  The AI voice was perfect, until it hit 2 technical terms that it mis pronounced.  Other than that, the pace, time and inflections were very good. Sounded very natural.

Yeah was same for me last night. Came across a piece by chance that was labled as AI and it sure did not sound like AI at all.

hedgehobbit

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on January 30, 2025, 12:52:56 PMNo amount of tools will compensate for incompetence. Even if you replace actors with AI, then you're just moving the burden to whoever is instructing the AI. The instructor will still need to know how to act in order to construct a convincing simulacrum. Not only will they need to know how to act, they will need to display as much range as the group of actors they displaced.

For now, though, you can still have humans doing the mo-cap work and the voice work. The big money saver is that you won't need different actors for each role. A handful of professionals can film an entire movie. Acting will become a normal office job; you show up for work at 9, scan your scenes, and then go home at 5.

zircher

Quote from: hedgehobbit on January 31, 2025, 10:10:35 AMFor now, though, you can still have humans doing the mo-cap work and the voice work. The big money saver is that you won't need different actors for each role. A handful of professionals can film an entire movie. Acting will become a normal office job; you show up for work at 9, scan your scenes, and then go home at 5.
The Corridor Crew has handily proven this with even less capable technology than we have today.  :-)
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Hague

I have as much sympathy for the actors and artists that are losing to AI as they had for people whose jobs got moved overseas, or were laid off in favor of companies employing H1B or outright illegal alien workers.

Which is to say, "LOL. Learn to weld/drive a truck/mine coal".