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New Guys Who Don't Want to Get Banned...

Started by crkrueger, September 11, 2017, 01:05:38 AM

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Catelf

#30
September 16, 2017, 07:42:14 PM
Quote from: Voros;992982It is also because many disparate thinkers and artists get thrown under the postmodernist label. The only thing less clear than postmodernism is what people mean by modernism itself.

Probably because what is postmodern today is a reaction to what was modern by the millennium shift, and what was modern then was postmodern in the 90s, and THAT was a reaction to what was modern in the 70s and postmodern in the 90s .....
So, the postmodern today is actually post-post-postmodern, mixed and conflated with what's post-postmodern and actual postmodern from the 80s.
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#31
September 16, 2017, 08:36:31 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;992955I know narrative rpgers love to drape themselves in a cloak of persecution and victimhood [strike]on this site[/strike] everywhere, all the time . . .
Fixed that for you.

Quote from: CRKrueger;992955. . . unless you're one of the morons for whom "everything is political", but I thought the last of those ragequit.
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Bren

#32
September 16, 2017, 09:38:47 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;992990My Extreme Oversimplification That Should Be Taken As Seriously As This Post Suggests
Sure, sure you religious guys want to include the Deists when it suits you and exclude them when it doesn't. :p My version is just as serious as yours AC, but shorter.*

   Modernism is anything newer than old stuff and prior to post-modernism.


* So by Occam's Razor I win. Occam having been a Franciscan Friar you must accept the criteria.
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Abraxus

#33
September 16, 2017, 09:50:37 PM Last Edit: September 16, 2017, 09:59:20 PM by sureshot
"Begins singing New Guys don't wanna get banned" in the vein of Cyndi Lauper's Girls just want to have fun.

It's a slow Saturday and yes I'm that bored.

crkrueger

#34
September 16, 2017, 09:54:22 PM
Quote from: TrippyHippy;992968I don't think Cam Banks ever went so far as that either.
On the subject of the narrative and definition of GameGate, he was pretty clear...

Quote from: Cam BanksThere's some new push by a couple of idiots to promote a Tabletop version of the GG hashtag on Twitter and other places.

DO NOT USE THIS HASHTAG. Do not legitimize these morons with their anti-feminist anti-social justice anti-equity bullshit. They are trying to ride the coattails of an already toxic and patently ridiculous crusade in video games to shine attention on things they don't like.

Also, if you're involved in trying to push this new thing out there, I don't think I can make it any more plain: no legitimate tabletop RPG publisher, designer, or developer is going to put up with this crap from you. You are a sad, sad little person.

PS: I have a degree in ethics, so don't even start with me.
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TrippyHippy

#35
September 16, 2017, 09:57:08 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;993042On the subject of the narrative and definition of GameGate, he was pretty clear...
And you think this is the same thing as keeping people out of the industry that don't agree with you?
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Bren

#36
September 16, 2017, 09:58:03 PM
Nice sureshot. But "New Guys don't wanna get banned" scans better.
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#37
September 16, 2017, 10:37:29 PM Last Edit: September 16, 2017, 10:43:42 PM by CRKrueger
Quote from: TrippyHippy;993044And you think this is the same thing as keeping people out of the industry that don't agree with you?

It's a pretty clear implied threat:  attempt to bring Gamergate here and the industry will respond with blacklisting.
On that topic, yes, he crossed that line, in simple English. You may have a different opinion, one that I'm sure has nothing to do with your agreement with what Cam would say about GG.  As Gamergate itself is a topic that's not allowed in this particular forum, I think there's little to go further except to say you probably disagree on what he actually meant.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

crkrueger

#38
September 16, 2017, 10:39:09 PM
Quote from: Bren;993045Nice sureshot. But "New Guys don't wanna get banned" scans better.

Unsure of your meaning.
Even the the "cutting edge" storygamers for all their talk of narrative, plot, and drama are fucking obsessed with the god damned rules they use. - Estar

Yes, Sean Connery\'s thumb does indeed do megadamage. - Spinachcat

Isuldur is a badass because he stopped Sauron with a broken sword, but Iluvatar is the badass because he stopped Sauron with a hobbit. -Malleus Arianorum

"Tangency Edition" D&D would have no classes or races, but 17 genders to choose from. -TristramEvans

Dumarest

#39
September 16, 2017, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;992990My Extreme Oversimplification That Should Be Taken As Seriously As This Post Suggests:
 
   Pre-Modernity/Traditional Western Thought: There is a God, and I am not Him.
   Modernism: There is no God, and we are not Him.
   Postmodernism: There is no God, and We are Him/Her/It.

  :D

You missed Millenialist Western Thought: We are gods, why doesn't anyone great treat us as such?

TrippyHippy

#40
September 16, 2017, 10:44:34 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;993065It's a pretty clear implied threat:  attempt to bring Gamergate here and the industry will respond with blacklisting.
On that topic, yes, he crossed that line, in simple English.
Nothing implied in it.

He says 'don't use this hashtag' and points out that 'no legitimate tabletop RPG publisher, designer, or developer is going to put up with this crap from you'.

That's not a threat of blacklisting or 'keeping people out of the industry that don't agree with you'. That is saying 'you guys suck, so fuck off!'.
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Armchair Gamer

#41
September 16, 2017, 10:52:09 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;993068You missed Millenialist Western Thought: We are gods, why doesn't anyone great treat us as such?

That's what you get when postmodern True Believers run into ... well, just about anyone else. :)

Armchair Gamer

#42
September 16, 2017, 10:55:24 PM
Quote from: TrippyHippy;993070That's not a threat of blacklisting or 'keeping people out of the industry that don't agree with you'. That is saying 'you guys suck, so fuck off!'.

Although that bit about a degree in ethics does feel a bit like an appeal to authority.

But I'm far from objective on this point--Banks and I spent years jousting about our divergent approaches to Dragonlance. :)

Gronan of Simmerya

#43
September 16, 2017, 11:02:46 PM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;993077Although that bit about a degree in ethics does feel a bit like an appeal to authority.

Actually, it read more like "Don't even START with me" to me.  Like, "I will make your silly arguments look truly silly."

Sort of like my brother in law once trying to insist that "feudalism" meant "no use of currency."  Um... I have a BA in medieval history, douche for brains.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

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Dumarest

#44
September 16, 2017, 11:06:10 PM
Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;993081Actually, it read more like "Don't even START with me" to me.  Like, "I will make your silly arguments look truly silly."

Sort of like my brother in law once trying to insist that "feudalism" meant "no use of currency."  Um... I have a BA in medieval history, douche for brains.

Wait, did you just say you have a douche for brains as well as a B.A. in medieval history? :p
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