Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;992672I agree, if you're talking about how the game plays. But as the referee, I spend some time with books and rules text, and some presentations give me more pleasure or inspiration than others. For example, I find the 1e DMG to be full of inspiration, and I enjoy reading and referencing it, regardless of what D&D edition I happen to be running. All purely subjective, of course.

Quote from: estar;992656Having said the above, if you want a concise and playable reinstatement of the AD&D rules for combat and task resolution download OSRIC for free.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/stewart-marshall/osric-a5-pdf/ebook/product-20697767.html

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;992659We all started with OD&D, and looked at AD&D as a series of sourcebooks to pull optional rules from at will.  We laughed at the notion it was a different game.  So starting with basic rules and adding bits as you go works perfectly well.

Quote from: estar;992655Most people I know run AD&D campaigns with the AD&D stuff (Classes, Monsters, Magic Items, Spells) but use B/X for combat/task resolution. That is roll 1d6 for initiative, high roll goes first, do one thing that round (move, attack, cast spell, etc).

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;992672I agree, if you're talking about how the game plays. But as the referee, I spend some time with books and rules text, and some presentations give me more pleasure or inspiration than others. For example, I find the 1e DMG to be full of inspiration, and I enjoy reading and referencing it, regardless of what D&D edition I happen to be running. All purely subjective, of course.

Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;992743Awesome, I guess that was my goal all along, but having only really been a player wasn't sure if it was feasible. But of course the point of the game is that ANYTHING is possible. Thank you Lessnard - I mean Gronan...

Quote from: GrabtharsHammer;992759Just looking through the players there isn't this feeling of undertaking a default "heroic quest" like I got from 2e. Maybe it was the B&W art from Tramp & Sutherland, the assassin class, etc.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;992767Absolutely, positively, indubitably, undoubtedly not!  The intention and vibe was much more "Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser," or at best "The Governor and Company of Adventurers of England trading into Hudson's Bay".  Treasure hunters who happened to team up for a while, friendly rivals, or even out and out cutthroats.  If you were anything but a Cleric or one of the occasional very rare Paladins, you were "Neutral".

The default is "Get gold, become name level, become a stronghold holder, and become a Power in the World."  And only one ass fits on that throne.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;992787The difference between a grave robber and a hero may just be some well planted rumors of undead in the area.

Quote from: estar;992655Most people I know run AD&D campaigns with the AD&D stuff (Classes, Monsters, Magic Items, Spells) but use B/X for combat/task resolution. That is roll 1d6 for initiative, high roll goes first, do one thing that round (move, attack, cast spell, etc).

Quote from: Spinachcat;992795Agreed.

Way back when, we dumped the AD&D ability score charts for the B/X ones too.

AKA, we ran B/X with AD&D classes.

Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;992771Absolutely agree. That's the kind of vibe I prefer in D&D. The default "story" in my games is "adventurers band together in pursuit of fortune and glory, and to tread the jeweled thrones of the world beneath their sandaled feet."  My campaigns draw more inspiration from swords-n-sorcery in the Leiber/Howard vein than from heroic epic quest fiction. The adventurers may not be paragons of virtue, and they're typically not out to save the world. Fortune and glory.