Quote from: Spike;988439That is not a Judge Dredd movie.

You might wish that were so, but defying reality never works out well in the end...

Quote from: Dumarest;988445You might wish that were so, but defying reality never works out well in the end...

Stallone doesn't even have a Gun, man.

I mean: I'd complain about the lack of Helmet, shoulder pads and cod pieces, but... well... A: He doesn't wear a helmet in Judge Dredd, so...  and B: I'm not entirely sure he doesn't have shoulder pads or cod pieces in Demolition Man.



Also: He doesn't chew even a single piece of scenery. Not one.   How can it be a Stallone Judge Dredd movie if he outsources all the Scenery Chewing to the villain?

Quote from: spike;988449stallone doesn't even have a gun, man.

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Quote from: spike;988449i mean: I'd complain about the lack of helmet, shoulder pads and cod pieces, but... Well... A: He doesn't wear a helmet in judge dredd, so...  And b: I'm not entirely sure he doesn't have shoulder pads or cod pieces in demolition man.  

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Quote from: spike;988449also: He doesn't chew even a single piece of scenery. Not one.   How can it be a stallone judge dredd movie if he outsources all the scenery chewing to the villain?

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See here now, I say, I say, that's not kosher, son!

Quote from: Spike;988516See here now, I say, I say, that's not kosher, son!

I don't know if it's kosher, but it certainly was bad.

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Who under-rates the Dredd movie, I think I've only seen good to very good reviews of it?

There were some issues with the film. While the 3D and slo-mo was actually rather well-executed, it definitely felt feel shoe-horned in......because it was, studio demanded it (fair enough, do what you gotta do).

There has been a lot of call for a sequel, but the money boys were understandably gunshy. However there is now a TV series in production, and we are likely to see Karl Urban as Dredd in some form or other.

Look at the box office for it and the lack of a sequel. The audience sure underrated it...

Quote from: Schwartzwald;988649Look at the box office for it and the lack of a sequel. The audience sure underrated it...

I don't know that Judge Dredd has much name recognition with the moviegoing public and on top of that the marketing/advertising I thought wasn't good at all (I didn't even know it had come out until acter it had already left theaters--and I have old Judge Dredd comic books and the GW game!). Combine the two and you've already shot yourself in the foot. Lots of good movies (I'll take  your word for its quality as I still haven't seen it) barely register at the box office, but that doesn't make them underrated, just underviewed. At least nowadays with home video a movie still has a chance to catch on. Some box office flops have performed so well at home they end getting sequels anyway.

The Dredd movie is an awesome cult movie, but had three fairly acute criticisms:

1) It was an unquestionable R-Rated movie, which is not a problem for me, but for the major market of comic-book movie fans (i.e. teen boys) it meant that a bulk of potential fans couldn't legally see the movie at the box office. The movie bombed accordingly.

2) The plot is uncomfortably similar to The Raid, released just a year before, and brought about claims of plagiarism. Whether this is true or just a coincidence, it coloured some of the early reviews of the movie.

3) The movie didn't have enough time to introduce all the satirical and absurdist elements of the Judge Dredd world into just one sitting. While much of the tone and look of the world was well captured, the actual comic series is funnier and more ironic in intent. If the movie had kickstarted a series, then it may have got there.

Quote from: Schwartzwald;988649Look at the box office for it and the lack of a sequel. The audience sure underrated it...

I don't think Dredd was under-rated by either critics nor the people who went to see it. Mostly, they thought it was "fine". I agree with that.  (Likewise I don't think Dredd was over-rated either).


Dredd did "fine" at the box office, but not enough to greenlight a sequel. That's not uncommon, if disappointing.


If Dredd had come out after Deadpool, no-one would have blinked at the 'R' rating. As it was, it probably hurt them at the box office.


Likewise, the developments of The Raid and Dredd were famously completely independent of each other, but the similarities might have hurt Dredd a little (because marketing airtime had to be spent explaining that, rather than promoting the film on its own merits).

Quote from: Motorskills;988785I don't think Dredd was under-rated by either critics nor the people who went to see it. Mostly, they thought it was "fine". I agree with that.  (Likewise I don't think Dredd was over-rated either).


Dredd did "fine" at the box office, but not enough to greenlight a sequel. That's not uncommon, if disappointing.


If Dredd had come out after Deadpool, no-one would have blinked at the 'R' rating. As it was, it probably hurt them at the box office.


Likewise, the developments of The Raid and Dredd were famously completely independent of each other, but the similarities might have hurt Dredd a little (because marketing airtime had to be spent explaining that, rather than promoting the film on its own merits).

Which is unfortunate, since the raid takes more from dredd that the other way around. Well, the comics anyway.

Quote from: Motorskills;988785Dredd did "fine" at the box office, but not enough to greenlight a sequel. That's not uncommon, if disappointing.

It took a worldwide gross of $41 million from a $45 million budget. It bombed.

Quote from: TrippyHippy;988729The Dredd movie is an awesome cult movie, but had three fairly acute criticisms:

3) The movie didn't have enough time to introduce all the satirical and absurdist elements of the Judge Dredd world into just one sitting. While much of the tone and look of the world was well captured, the actual comic series is funnier and more ironic in intent. If the movie had kickstarted a series, then it may have got there.

I'm not a super-Dredd comic fan, but this was my big complaint about the movie. At least the Stallone movie had some character. The Urban Dredd was flat and routine.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;988964I'm not a super-Dredd comic fan, but this was my big complaint about the movie. At least the Stallone movie had some character. The Urban Dredd was flat and routine.

I think the Stallone movie was contrived for a general sci-fi audience who would have very little experience with JD. Which was considered heresy by us the fans.

I did like the look of Mean Angle though.

Quote from: TrippyHippy;988963It took a worldwide gross of $41 million from a $45 million budget. It bombed.

Google advises me that it made another $20 million from domestic DVD sales alone. I dunno if that's good or not?

My non-educated take from following the buzz at the time, and since, is that Dredd did indeed under-perform, but was not a financial dumpster fire. There was considerable talk of a sequel, so it couldn't have been that bad.

Beyond that, the TV show is moving ahead fast, so Rebellion at least thinks there is a market.