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Any opinions on the New Conan RPG?

Started by oggsmash, July 23, 2017, 11:34:16 AM

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oggsmash

As a Conan fan I am curious about this one.  I did not kickstart the project (had money tied up in two others, and given how slow reaper was in delivering I was not so confident in a company I am less familiar with) but I have tried to figure out when the book hits the market.  

   I will surely buy a copy when it comes out, but I was curious as to how the system plays out on the table.  I have never played a 2d20 game, have MC and try to follow the system in the book, but assume there will be some S&S tweaks to the system for Conan.  I think it is a system I would need to play in for a few hours to feel confident with.

  Anyhow, anyone playing/testing/using the system in game and could you give me an overview of how it plays out on the table?

Madprofessor

Yeah, I have opinions. The game sucks. I still bought it for the setting material, adventures, and art because I am a fan of the IP. "How it plays out" has been discussed exhaustively in multiple threads on the RPGsite with several of the designers and people at Modiphius contributing. I would post them here - if I knew how. Someone will chime in and help you out I'm sure. I don't care for the game one bit, but clearly many people do.  Whether you would like it or not depends on what you want out of a Conan RPG.

TrippyHippy

It's got all the flash - art, layout, writing etc, but I'm not particularly in with the system. For me, they'd have done better sticking with a D20/Pathfinder/5E system, personally.
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rgrove0172

Quote from: TrippyHippy;977632It's got all the flash - art, layout, writing etc, but I'm not particularly in with the system. For me, they'd have done better sticking with a D20/Pathfinder/5E system, personally.

Why would they have done that? it was already done exactly that way several years back, complete with a 2nd edition.

Darrin Kelley

Quote from: rgrove0172;977809Why would they have done that? it was already done exactly that way several years back, complete with a 2nd edition.

The 2nd edition of the Mongoose Conan RPG was cheaply done. There was a noticeable visual quality dip between editions. I know this because I own pretty much everything in that game line.

The reason to do a new D20 version? Pretty simple. They would have gotten all of the old fans who got burned by Mongoose. They would have gotten considerable good will for picking up and running with that ball.

OGL Conan is easily my favorite interation of a D20 fantasy game. It took away all of the nitpicks I had with that system. And did a bang up job of representing the fictional material that they were basing the game on.
 

Llew ap Hywel

If I was going to run Conan with anything it would be Mythras but I'd use the new system as a second choice based on CRkruegers thread.

Not for the love of Set would I use a D20 system.
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Darrin Kelley

Quote from: HorusArisen;977837If I was going to run Conan with anything it would be Mythras but I'd use the new system as a second choice based on CRkruegers thread.

Not for the love of Set would I use a D20 system.

A large part of why Conan Properties Inc. pulled the license from Mongoose was: Because Mongoose had decided to relaunch the property under Runequest. Effectively abandoning all of the customers who had sunk so much into OGL Conan.

All Mongoose responded with were: Pie in the sky promises that meant less than nothing to the customer base they already had established.

In this case: Conan Properties Inc. were firmly on the side of the consumers.

Personally. I wouldn't touch Mythras or any Runequest derived game at all. Because I have already been burned by Mongoose because of that subject to begin with.
 

Llew ap Hywel

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;977842A large part of why Conan Properties Inc. pulled the license from Mongoose was: Because Mongoose had decided to relaunch the property under Runequest. Effectively abandoning all of the customers who had sunk so much into OGL Conan.

All Mongoose responded with were: Pie in the sky promises that meant less than nothing to the customer base they already had established.

In this case: Conan Properties Inc. were firmly on the side of the consumers.

Personally. I wouldn't touch Mythras or any Runequest derived game at all. Because I have already been burned by Mongoose because of that subject to begin with.

So you won't touch the game because a specific licensee burned you? That's like never playing D&D again because Green Ronin stopped making True20.

So reasons I wouldn't use d20.

Class system too restrictive
Hot point accumulation
Magic system
Limited skill use/systems.

I'm fine with all additions of D&D for D&D I just don't find most adaptations worth the time.
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Toadmaster

Quote from: Madprofessor;977630Yeah, I have opinions. The game sucks. I still bought it for the setting material, adventures, and art because I am a fan of the IP. "How it plays out" has been discussed exhaustively in multiple threads on the RPGsite with several of the designers and people at Modiphius contributing. I would post them here - if I knew how. Someone will chime in and help you out I'm sure. I don't care for the game one bit, but clearly many people do.  Whether you would like it or not depends on what you want out of a Conan RPG.


The description of the system doesn't appeal to me. How well does the material work for use with another system?
I didn't care for the d20 version either, but did buy a few of the better rated books because the source material was good and useful beyond the d20 system.

rgrove0172

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;977823The 2nd edition of the Mongoose Conan RPG was cheaply done. There was a noticeable visual quality dip between editions. I know this because I own pretty much everything in that game line.

The reason to do a new D20 version? Pretty simple. They would have gotten all of the old fans who got burned by Mongoose. They would have gotten considerable good will for picking up and running with that ball.

OGL Conan is easily my favorite interation of a D20 fantasy game. It took away all of the nitpicks I had with that system. And did a bang up job of representing the fictional material that they were basing the game on.

I DO own everything available in that line and enjoyed the game, both versions. I do recall however a great deal of talk at the time that D20OGL simply could not do Conan/REH justice. It was a bad fit rules to genre. I could understand those that held this opinion but we made it work fine for several years. I would have been happy to continue that way but will admit I got a little excited when Modiphius went in a different direction. Ive played the Quickstart and read through the PDF Rules a bit and so far, I like what I see.

Darrin Kelley

Quote from: HorusArisen;977844So you won't touch the game because a specific licensee burned you? That's like never playing D&D again because Green Ronin stopped making True20.

More than that actually.

I find the Runequest fan community to be obnoxious and elitist.

My first encounter with a Runequest fan was when I had only barely had purchased the Basic, Expert, and Companion sets of D&D. And I had been looking for a group that shared my interests to play that game.

What did I get instead? Nearly two hours of a Runequest snob preaching about how superior Runequest was. And how crappy the game I had just got was. It wasn't a fun experience.

Over the years since then. I have delt with other BRP games. The only one that even semi-clicked with me was Stormbringer. But I only barely tolerated the system as it was.

But anytime I even mildly think of looking at Runequest. It's fan base proves to me I should just walk the other way.
 

Llew ap Hywel

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;977898More than that actually.

I find the Runequest fan community to be obnoxious and elitist.

My first encounter with a Runequest fan was when I had only barely had purchased the Basic, Expert, and Companion sets of D&D. And I had been looking for a group that shared my interests to play that game.

What did I get instead? Nearly two hours of a Runequest snob preaching about how superior Runequest was. And how crappy the game I had just got was. It wasn't a fun experience.

Over the years since then. I have delt with other BRP games. The only one that even semi-clicked with me was Stormbringer. But I only barely tolerated the system as it was.

But anytime I even mildly think of looking at Runequest. It's fan base proves to me I should just walk the other way.

Well I can't knock your opinion  being coloured by a bad experience.

If you ever change your mind check out the Mythras forums, it's a quiet but friendly crowd.
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TrippyHippy

Quote from: rgrove0172;977809Why would they have done that? it was already done exactly that way several years back, complete with a 2nd edition.
Bigger market. 5E, in particular as a newish version of D20, could have adapted it well. The brand and setting for Conan would always be a bigger pull factor than any system-based aspect - and to be honest, the 2D20 system isn't all that special anyway.

Cubicle 7 cottoned to this with their development of Adventures in Middle Earth. Yes, The One Ring is fine, but most RPG fans play D&D, so may as well go with the flow. Ditto Conan.
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