Quote from: 3rik;969117Yup. And it actually almost sounds like it was designed by the same people who did Germany´s number one "rpg" Das Schwarze Auge which suffers from many of the same issues.

By the way, Pulp Fiction with vampires sounds a lot like From Dusk Till Dawn.

My only question is will it have Salma Hayek as Santanico Pandemonium? If not, that is a nonstarter for me.

Quote from: AsenRG;969249Powers are present in Silent Legions, if the Referee allows them. They just have a price:).
And the price of powers is a major theme of urban fantasy;).

Well, it seems like it's mostly about the Mythos (aka squidhead and robed cultists). Urban fantasy is mostly a world where everyone is running around with powers, mostly because they are mages, vampires, shapeshifters, fae etc. Magic and monsters are common. I am personally the most interested in a game where those things exist, but are rare and very powerful and frightening when encountered. Gritty, high realism and low magic. A modern occult game where conspiracies, cultist and magicians/witches exist, but they are meddling with forces they don't understand. Low psychic powers might be available for pc's. Don't think Charles Xavier, but think more the kid from the Shining. But no squidheads, no greys. Now that I think of it Unknown Armies and Kult probably come closest. But long post ... will Silent Legions be of any use?

Quote from: jan paparazzi;970078Well, it seems like it's mostly about the Mythos (aka squidhead and robed cultists). Urban fantasy is mostly a world where everyone is running around with powers, mostly because they are mages, vampires, shapeshifters, fae etc. Magic and monsters are common. I am personally the most interested in a game where those things exist, but are rare and very powerful and frightening when encountered. Gritty, high realism and low magic. A modern occult game where conspiracies, cultist and magicians/witches exist, but they are meddling with forces they don't understand. Low psychic powers might be available for pc's. Don't think Charles Xavier, but think more the kid from the Shining. But no squidheads, no greys. Now that I think of it Unknown Armies and Kult probably come closest. But long post ... will Silent Legions be of any use?

Short answer, it could if the GM makes a few tweaks, but Unknown Armies would be better;).

Quote from: jan paparazzi;970078Well, it seems like it's mostly about the Mythos (aka squidhead and robed cultists). Urban fantasy is mostly a world where everyone is running around with powers, mostly because they are mages, vampires, shapeshifters, fae etc. Magic and monsters are common. I am personally the most interested in a game where those things exist, but are rare and very powerful and frightening when encountered. Gritty, high realism and low magic. A modern occult game where conspiracies, cultist and magicians/witches exist, but they are meddling with forces they don't understand. Low psychic powers might be available for pc's. Don't think Charles Xavier, but think more the kid from the Shining. But no squidheads, no greys. Now that I think of it Unknown Armies and Kult probably come closest. But long post ... will Silent Legions be of any use?

Honestly, I'd recommend Silent Legions for world (Mythos) building, and just about any other game for actual play.  It's not that Silent Legions is bad, it's just there are other games out there with better systems, and SL's main unique strength is in giving you a bunch of tables to randomly generate a Mythos, its beasties, and so forth.

Quote from: 3rik;969117Yup. And it actually almost sounds like it was designed by the same people who did Germany´s number one "rpg" Das Schwarze Auge which suffers from many of the same issues.

By the way, Pulp Fiction with vampires sounds a lot like From Dusk Till Dawn.

Just so long as it doesn't devolve into Innocent Blood.  [Shudder]

VS

Quote from: san dee jota;970135Honestly, I'd recommend Silent Legions for world (Mythos) building, and just about any other game for actual play.  It's not that Silent Legions is bad, it's just there are other games out there with better systems, and SL's main unique strength is in giving you a bunch of tables to randomly generate a Mythos, its beasties, and so forth.

That's what I suspected. Well, it seems I still haven't found the game that hits my sweet spot in this genre. Too bad. I think I just wait how this edition pans out and see how the new Kult develops.

So someone pointed out this really "interesting" dialogue between Mark Hagan (creator of Vampire) and Holden Shearer (prior Exalted developer). Thought you all might enjoy the "exchange."

https://www.facebook.com/Reinhagen/posts/10155667328577240

Just hunt for Holden's reply, it gets quite intensive rather quickly.

Quote from: Lord Darkview;970222So someone pointed out this really "interesting" dialogue between Mark Hagan (creator of Vampire) and Holden Shearer (prior Exalted developer). Thought you all might enjoy the "exchange."

https://www.facebook.com/Reinhagen/posts/10155667328577240

Just hunt for Holden's reply, it gets quite intensive rather quickly.

Damn. Mark has my sympathies. Those folks are acting like a crazed mob.

Quote from: VengerSatanis;970171Just so long as it doesn't devolve into Innocent Blood.  [Shudder]

VS

That movie was awesome squared.  Mobster vampires led by a brilliant Robert Loggia with DON FUCKING RICKLES and a soundtrack with only Sinatra!

It would be better than the bitchy angst-fest that V:TM was as written!

Quote from: Lord Darkview;970222So someone pointed out this really "interesting" dialogue between Mark Hagan (creator of Vampire) and Holden Shearer (prior Exalted developer). Thought you all might enjoy the "exchange."

https://www.facebook.com/Reinhagen/posts/10155667328577240

Just hunt for Holden's reply, it gets quite intensive rather quickly.

Holy mother of fuck, do I feel sorry for Mark Hagan right now.  There are two stupid fuckers riding his ass doing the best freeform adaptation of "The Crucible" I've ever seen.

I don't have Facebook, What's the gist?

Quote from: Nexus;970250I don't have Facebook, What's the gist?

For those of us without Facebook, it's impossible (edit: nope, just difficult) to see the exchange.

Damn I had not seen a dog pile this vicious since the one I was involved.  I was the one being piled on if your wondering.  Poor Mark you got my empathy.

Basically Mark wants to make vampire board game.

Holden and friends wanted to shame Mark to the point that he would drop the board game.

Mark wasn't having any of Holden's shit.  Mark tried to be polite about it at first, but Holden & Friends had to make it worst.  Mark has my empathy.

Quote from: Nexus;970250I don't have Facebook, What's the gist?

Two or three morons harrass Hagen for working for a company that dared to hire Zak. Hagen defends himself well and exposes them for the self-righteous assholes they are but they live in such a delusional bubble they think they're winning and post on their own accounts bragging and circlejerking about their supposed victory. They are the internet's own STD.

Someone should screengrab that FB comment thread for the 'Why we hate you' thread.