Quote from: Christopher Brady;960431It's not an exact science, but specific topics will also drift.

(The Exalted thread is pretty much the best example.)

Well, like any 'rules' for social interactions its more a guideline but it doesn't sounds like an unreasonable rule of thumb.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;960401By page 11, quit reading.  There's nothing to be said beyond those 11 pages.  Doesn't matter what the cut-off for the software is, 20 messages a page, 10 messages a page, 5 messages a page.  By page 11, it's over, the topic is about to descend into arguments.

Well, then, this thread should still be in good shape.  It's only 6 pages long.  (I read at 50 messages/page.)

Quote from: thedungeondelver;960401It especially goes for here.  Past page 11, no useful information.  Past page 15, just a flame war.  Past page 20, just two people being cunts.  At the very end of the thread, you get meta-stuff like this, and the person who posted before you.

I dunno why the math seems to work out exactly like that, but that's been my experience going back to...holy shit, all the way to BBS systems in the 80s.

Now here's something that will blow your mind. This is perfectly true for you, reading this thread at 10 posts per page, and yet remains equally true in teh exact same thread for me, reading at 50 posts per page.

Weird, huh?

Aaand I just got done reading #AnnaKreider's [long] screed on how nobody wanted to buy or play her #MagicalGirl RPG #StarlitKingdom because of the #Menz, rather than the art, branding, marketing, and refusal to put it on DriveThru.

Yes, there are barriers women face, but creating your own problems and attributing them to sexism is anything but the answer. And I'm seeing this happen with growing regularity.

Quote from: Voros;960365I hardly think one could claim that Kate Bullock is somehow representative of women's tastes in rpgs.

Nobody is. But that's not the point.

She has chosen to be a paid representative of women in gaming and advocate for social justice. And when someone like that literally metaphorically #PooPoos on #NicoleLindroos' invitation it sends an antithetical message, and demonstrates exactly how much those who claim to be fighting the good fight value them.

You want women and minorities in gaming? Then stop using them as political tools.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;960401By page 11, quit reading.  There's nothing to be said beyond those 11 pages.  Doesn't matter what the cut-off for the software is, 20 messages a page, 10 messages a page, 5 messages a page.  By page 11, it's over, the topic is about to descend into arguments.  

If the thread goes on beyond 15 pages, you're left with just two people arguing at each other.  Just two.  

By page 20, if it goes on that long, the two cunts left arguing at each other aren't even arguing the original subject: they're posting nasty shit at each other about how they argue, not about anything to do with any topic the thread started in.  By page 20, it's just two assholes going "Well you can't spell" and "Your argument style sucks!".  That's it.  Period.

The sole exceptions to this is heavily, heavily moderated threads where, say, an admin says "This thread is for tech support issues only" and people that go "Oh my God dude I can't believe you just told him to go AMD, I thought he wanted his computer to work" get their asses thrown out, and "jam" threads, where people are posting pictures and links, with no particular topic (photo threads/painting threads/here's my car threads etc.).  And even those you gotta watch.

It especially goes for here.  Past page 11, no useful information.  Past page 15, just a flame war.  Past page 20, just two people being cunts.  At the very end of the thread, you get meta-stuff like this, and the person who posted before you.

First, irony points for posting this.

Second, prove it. Because this thread has been pretty interesting so far, with multiple people engaging, an interesting tangent on religion, and no one correcting spelling or grammar.

Or rather don't, because of course you're right, regardless of the facts.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;960476Aaand I just got done reading #AnnaKreider's [long] screed on how nobody wanted to buy or play her #MagicalGirl RPG #StarlitKingdom because of the #Menz, rather than the art, branding, marketing, and refusal to put it on DriveThru.

In a nutshell, what did she have to say?

Quote from: Nexus;960478In a nutshell, what did she had to say?

She made a Sailor Moon storygame and couldn't get people to play or buy it, even though the couple of people she dragged into playing it said they had fun.

Of course people should buy it anyway because she's owed it because she's female and it's harder for her.  Female designers shouldn't write games that men want to buy, male gamers should buy games they have no interest in to correct the gender imbalance.

Or depending on how you view things, maybe a privileged white person shouldn't take it for granted that they can make a living through their hobby.

Don't feel too bad for Anna Kreider. Her latest "Men Really Suck" game nearly attracted 900 backers on Kickstarter. I bet there are tons of smaller male creators who'd love to have such problems.

As a big Sailor Moon fan back in the 90s, I got my magical girl fix through BESM and later Magical Burst and the stories told were pretty upbeat. Don't see the appeal of explicitly tragic magical girl stories.

Unless the EP 2E devs write religions as suddenly being very accepting of change. Most religions imo are notoriously against change. That's why I don't think religions will be as popular. Not for a lack of worshippers. More unable to adapt to Transhumanism. Let alone adapt to change in general.

As for Kate article GR pretty much advertised that tjeir Blue Rose rpg would be for 5E. So if she dislikes 5E so much why even bother saying she wanted to apply.  As for Anna saying it's men fault her rpg is doing poorly and she is owned something dammit. Is not going to make me want to run let alone buy anything with her name on it.

Quote from: DeadUematsu;960496As a big Sailor Moon fan back in the 90s, I got my magical girl fix through BESM and later Magical Burst and the stories told were pretty upbeat. Don't see the appeal of explicitly tragic magical girl stories.

It's mostly because Puella Magi Madoka Magica was very popular, as well as being a deconstruction of the genre. It didn't hurt that the story was good, and was contrasted by character design by Ume Aoki who is best known for Hidamari Sketch which is pretty much everything Madoka Magica is not. So you have an effect where an anime that subverts tropes normally associated with the genre becomes popular enough that the deconstruction begins to be perceived as the norm.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;960476Aaand I just got done reading #AnnaKreider's [long] screed on how nobody wanted to buy or play her #MagicalGirl RPG #StarlitKingdom because of the #Menz, rather than the art, branding, marketing, and refusal to put it on DriveThru.

Don't you have an undelivered kickstarter you haven't updated in over three years?  Yes, you do.  Maybe you should look into that.

Quote from: Krimson;960514It's mostly because Puella Magi Madoka Magica was very popular, as well as being a deconstruction of the genre. It didn't hurt that the story was good, and was contrasted by character design by Ume Aoki who is best known for Hidamari Sketch which is pretty much everything Madoka Magica is not. So you have an effect where an anime that subverts tropes normally associated with the genre becomes popular enough that the deconstruction begins to be perceived as the norm.

Off topic:  Actually, Madoka defangs itself in the last episode.  The real tragic ones are Nurse Angel Ririka, in which the more she uses her powers, the shorter her life span, and the boy who desperately wants to save her, more recently Wish Upon The Pleiades, which is pretty sad throughout, despite the 'victory' in the end.  There are several more, but I can't seem to remember their names.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;960516Off topic:  Actually, Madoka defangs itself in the last episode.

Perhaps, but the damage has already been done by that point. I think part of the impact is that it's also very benign until the end of the third episode. I certainly had fun with it, watching the entirety of Hidamari Sketch immediately afterwards and waiting for horrible things to happen. I think at the time there were some other decent anime out, like Sankarea, and mixing horror and cute seemed to be a thing.

QuoteThe real tragic ones are Nurse Angel Ririka, in which the more she uses her powers, the shorter her life span, and the boy who desperately wants to save her, more recently Wish Upon The Pleiades, which is pretty sad throughout, despite the 'victory' in the end.  There are several more, but I can't seem to remember their names.

The impact really had a lot to do with popularity and recognition. It was much the same with the first season of Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack on Titan), though that one reveals itself pretty quickly.

Quote from: DeadUematsu;960496As a big Sailor Moon fan back in the 90s, I got my magical girl fix through BESM and later Magical Burst and the stories told were pretty upbeat. Don't see the appeal of explicitly tragic magical girl stories.

I might be interested in a Magical Girl game too but I'd prefer a more "traditional" one. Sailor Nothing was an an interesting read but I don't think I'd want to game it and I've never been fond of Deconstructions overall. Too often their less thoughtful examinations of the assumptions and workings of a genre and more rip apart the genre and add some grimdark to make it more "mature".

Quote from: Nexus;960521I might be interested in a Magical Girl game too but I'd prefer a more "traditional" one. Sailor Nothing was an an interesting read but I don't think I'd want to game it and I've never been fond of Deconstructions overall. Too often their less thoughtful examinations of the assumptions and workings of a genre and more rip apart the genre and add some grimdark to make it more "mature".

BESM would probably work well for you. I've also heard good things about OVA but I've never looked too deeply into it. I'm the only one who likes anime in my circle of friends, and even for me it's not something I know too much about so I've never had much reason to take too hard a look at anime rpgs.