Quote from: Amleth;948588And then we'll have a good conversation here.

Aye, it's like a bandaid - just rip it off!

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The review is out now, on my blog and here in the reviews subforum.

Quote from: RPGPundit;948996The review is out now, on my blog and here in the reviews subforum.

Thanks RPGPundit - aw it wasnt too bad at all! I like to think of LFG as a mix between OSR and 5e (edit: with a few new things, too) and it's aimed at folks who are interested in that kind of game.

Quote from: Psikerlord;949006Thanks RPGPundit - aw it wasnt too bad at all! I like to think of LFG as a mix between OSR and 5e (edit: with a few new things, too) and it's aimed at folks who are interested in that kind of game.

Glad you were OK with it!

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Quote from: Psikerlord;948517Well you must do what you must

May have to buy a nice copy just to support someone with a good attitude toward constructive criticism. Rare to see. Refreshing.

Quote from: Skarg;930970Without a map, the main level of gameplay I'm interested in is absent, and replaced by "read the GM's idea about what's going on, and convince him my idea about what I do will work" (e.g. your wolfpack example). Having the situation laid out in a map with counters for everything makes a huge difference even if there are no explicit rules for what it all means.

Or you could ASK the referee.  Granted, that required a referee who has some fucking idea of what you're talking about, and that can be its own frustration; yes, there are referees who consider trying to get behind an enemy "cheating," but the rules can't fix stupid.

Okay, one old grognard's personal opinion, not worth the electrons it's printed on:

I lost interest at the page count.

OD&D, if you translate it to 8 1/2 x 11 pages, was 56 or 58 pages.  That included an aerial combat game, a naval combat game, and castle building.  Even fixing the gaps in presentation, it would still be 64 pages or less.

I'm just not interested in "Big Blocks o' Rules" any more.  YM, as always, MV.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;950081Okay, one old grognard's personal opinion, not worth the electrons it's printed on:

I lost interest at the page count.

OD&D, if you translate it to 8 1/2 x 11 pages, was 56 or 58 pages.  That included an aerial combat game, a naval combat game, and castle building.  Even fixing the gaps in presentation, it would still be 64 pages or less.

I'm just not interested in "Big Blocks o' Rules" any more.  YM, as always, MV.

Fair call - if you're after a minimalist rule set, LFG is not that.

It's really it's own beast. It's not a retroclone or a slight OSR variant. I made LFG because I liked aspects of 5e and more modern games like 13th Age and DCC, but I also liked many concepts from OSR (which I only discovered in recent years, to be honest, I started with 2e). I tried to adapt 5e to a low magic game to play Primeval Thule (you can see my development unfold at dndhackersguild), but decided in the end that there was so much that had to be changed, that I may as well make the system exactly how I wanted it! So I did

What I ended up with is a mix of old school and more modern game design, based on the d20 OGL. There's also quite a few new mechanics, which I think improve gameplay and/or fix certain problems I've experienced over the years. All with a fairly flexible low magic base (albeit, there is a "dark and dangerous" twist to magic, which wont suit everyone - but again you could swap that out for standard "wild magic" or some other mechanic). Overall I consider it rules light compared to most RPGs (it's a lot smaller than 5e for example, and much less complex than pathfinder, shadowrun, inquisitor, etc), but if you're coming at it from a 50 page rulebook - it isnt!

Fair enough.  Good luck, just because it's not for me doesn't mean it's not going to be popular.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;950081I lost interest at the page count.

LFG's free PDF is 180 pages...which is low-ish these days.

Its weird. There's 1-page RPGs, 10-ish page rules light RPGs and then mostly giant textbooks.

Gronan, what do you consider an okay page count range? I doubt the modern market will support 64 page core books (even though I agree).

Quote from: Spinachcat;950138LFG's free PDF is 180 pages...which is low-ish these days.

Its weird. There's 1-page RPGs, 10-ish page rules light RPGs and then mostly giant textbooks.

Gronan, what do you consider an okay page count range? I doubt the modern market will support 64 page core books (even though I agree).

Well, I really don't count; the likelihood of me buying much of anything is slim.  I bought Kobolds Ate My Baby to support a funny game.  I've played it a couple times and it's not bad.  I've never tried to separate out the "fluff" from the "crunch" or whateverthehell because the whole thing was so fun to read.

I loved the original, first edition, West End Games STAR WARS RPG.  Again, though, every page of that was a delight to read.

The d20 Star Wars, on the other hand, was sheer torture.  Badly done rules, poorly described.  They used  2 1/2 pages to describe "Attack of Opportunity" and it still doesn't make much sense.  Your typical wargame uses a paragraph or two to describe the same thing.

But then again, Star Wars d20 is my poster child for shitty rules sets; many of the books don't even have an index, which for anything published by The Big Company, and in the 21st Century, is inexcusable.

I picked up a copy of Burning Wheel, riffled briefly through it, shuddered, and put it back down.  500 (or however many) pages of what read like stereo instructions.

So, I don't know.  Make it a pleasure to read and I won't care, I suspect.  But these days I'm much more likely to say "fuck it" after two or three pages.

Quote from: Matt;949897May have to buy a nice copy just to support someone with a good attitude toward constructive criticism. Rare to see. Refreshing.

You know, most people I've reviewed for, who I've done reviews that weren't entirely positive, have had a fairly good attitude. Only a few didn't (Geoffrey McKinney, who did Isle of the Unknown and Carcosa, was a notable example).

Responding to a poor review is pointless. Besides which the review wasn't that negative.

Quote from: Voros;950588Responding to a poor review is pointless. Besides which the review wasn't that negative.

And besides, Pundit has enough detractors that even a poor review from him might be a boost:).

Right now, I'm using the system for a setting loosely inspired by Fred Saberhagen's Book of Swords series, the French RPG Bloodlust, and "The Path of the Sword" novel by G.L. Oldie. We're having fun, although these are merely my "substitute sessions" that we play when our main Wandering Heroes of Ogre Gate campaign isn't running;)!