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Questioning chirine ba kal

Started by Bren, June 14, 2015, 02:55:18 PM

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chirine ba kal

Quote from: AsenRG;946493The name Vravodaya makes me think of someone who gives you rope...:)
Did the Vriddi ancestors give rope to their enemies so they'd hang themselves, I wonder?

It's a trend, Uncle, I'm telling you;)!

Probably, given their long and usually violent history. Wouldn't surprise me.

Agreed! :)

I had a rather disturbing incident at the convention, over the weekend. The Tekumel programming track, ably put together by Brett Slocum (he's the guy who runs the Yahoo group, by the way) was steaming along very well with lots of great games, and I was very happy to see all the interest being shown by quite a few of the 1,300+ people at the convention. One of the GMs, who was in our group out at Phil's, made some sort of comment that Phil, as a devout Muslim, would not have approved of the GM as he's a gay person. I think the intent was trying to show that Phil kept his faith separate from his gaming, and was - I think - meant in a positive sense. I had two issues with this statement: 1), the guy being gay had not come up out at Phil's at the time, and 2) anybody who knew Phil and his faith would know that this statement is - to be polite - wildly inaccurate. It wasn't an issue for Phil, and he simply did not care what other people did - as long as they didn't try to force him to subscribe to their political or similar positions. (Like one guy did with with the issue of the LGBTQ right to marry.)

I thought that the comment was inappropriate to the game convention setting, inaccurate regarding the Professor, and aimed more at building up the GM's status with his associates in the LGBTQ culture. He's done this kind of thing before - he's the one who announced that I had "persecuted" his PC for being gay - and the adventure that he had written and was running at the time was more or less a political manifesto for LGBTQ rights.

I found it all pretty disturbing, given my own experiences with Phil; my daughter, who is an LGBTQ activist (Amnesty International in Zurich) also found it odd.

Other then that, had a great weekend; report to follow!

Shemek hiTankolel

Quote from: chirine ba kal;946643You are most welcome! Happy to help! If you have a look at the Tekumel group over on Yahoo, Alva Hardison has built up a huge database of names, lineages, and clans from all the Tekumel sources; it's very, very useful!

Thanks once again Chirine!
This is very good, and will come in handy. She sure put in a tonne of work on this database. Found another Vriddi lineage after just a quick scan.

Shemek.
Don\'t part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Hrugga

Quote from: chirine ba kal;946645Probably, given their long and usually violent history. Wouldn't surprise me.

Agreed! :)

I had a rather disturbing incident at the convention, over the weekend. The Tekumel programming track, ably put together by Brett Slocum (he's the guy who runs the Yahoo group, by the way) was steaming along very well with lots of great games, and I was very happy to see all the interest being shown by quite a few of the 1,300+ people at the convention. One of the GMs, who was in our group out at Phil's, made some sort of comment that Phil, as a devout Muslim, would not have approved of the GM as he's a gay person. I think the intent was trying to show that Phil kept his faith separate from his gaming, and was - I think - meant in a positive sense. I had two issues with this statement: 1), the guy being gay had not come up out at Phil's at the time, and 2) anybody who knew Phil and his faith would know that this statement is - to be polite - wildly inaccurate. It wasn't an issue for Phil, and he simply did not care what other people did - as long as they didn't try to force him to subscribe to their political or similar positions. (Like one guy did with with the issue of the LGBTQ right to marry.)

I thought that the comment was inappropriate to the game convention setting, inaccurate regarding the Professor, and aimed more at building up the GM's status with his associates in the LGBTQ culture. He's done this kind of thing before - he's the one who announced that I had "persecuted" his PC for being gay - and the adventure that he had written and was running at the time was more or less a political manifesto for LGBTQ rights.

I found it all pretty disturbing, given my own experiences with Phil; my daughter, who is an LGBTQ activist (Amnesty International in Zurich) also found it odd.

Other then that, had a great weekend; report to follow!

Uncle,

I can not wait for your report. From what I understand many of the Tekumel game scenarios seem really interesting. As far as people go, I try to be true to myself. It matters not what they think of me. I listen and make no comments. So if a dead horse happens to be in my path, I let them lie. I do however like to carry a big stick. Which I rarely ever have to use...Be well!!!

H;0)

PS I have to agree with the Professor on his views of the subject.

Hrugga

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;946652Thanks once again Chirine!
This is very good, and will come in handy. She sure put in a tonne of work on this database. Found another Vriddi lineage after just a quick scan.

Shemek.

Greetings Lord Shemek,

Which file were you looking through? The name should suffice...I'm sure I can find it.

Thanks,
H:0)

Shemek hiTankolel

Quote from: Hrugga;946660Greetings Lord Shemek,

Which file were you looking through? The name should suffice...I'm sure I can find it.

Thanks,
H:0)

Mighty Hrugga,

Here they are:

Tekumel Lineages, Clans, and Notes 2.pdf
Tekumel Lineages, Clans, and Notes.odt

Both look good, especially the PDF.

Shemek
Don\'t part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Gronan of Simmerya

Quote from: chirine ba kal;946645One of the GMs, who was in our group out at Phil's, made some sort of comment that Phil, as a devout Muslim, would not have approved of the GM as he's a gay person.

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You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

Hrugga

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;946668Mighty Hrugga,

Here they are:

Tekumel Lineages, Clans, and Notes 2.pdf
Tekumel Lineages, Clans, and Notes.odt

Both look good, especially the PDF.

Shemek

Thank you

H:0)

AsenRG

Quote from: chirine ba kal;946645Probably, given their long and usually violent history. Wouldn't surprise me.

Agreed! :)

I had a rather disturbing incident at the convention, over the weekend. The Tekumel programming track, ably put together by Brett Slocum (he's the guy who runs the Yahoo group, by the way) was steaming along very well with lots of great games, and I was very happy to see all the interest being shown by quite a few of the 1,300+ people at the convention. One of the GMs, who was in our group out at Phil's, made some sort of comment that Phil, as a devout Muslim, would not have approved of the GM as he's a gay person. I think the intent was trying to show that Phil kept his faith separate from his gaming, and was - I think - meant in a positive sense. I had two issues with this statement: 1), the guy being gay had not come up out at Phil's at the time, and 2) anybody who knew Phil and his faith would know that this statement is - to be polite - wildly inaccurate. It wasn't an issue for Phil, and he simply did not care what other people did - as long as they didn't try to force him to subscribe to their political or similar positions. (Like one guy did with with the issue of the LGBTQ right to marry.)

I thought that the comment was inappropriate to the game convention setting, inaccurate regarding the Professor, and aimed more at building up the GM's status with his associates in the LGBTQ culture. He's done this kind of thing before - he's the one who announced that I had "persecuted" his PC for being gay - and the adventure that he had written and was running at the time was more or less a political manifesto for LGBTQ rights.

I found it all pretty disturbing, given my own experiences with Phil; my daughter, who is an LGBTQ activist (Amnesty International in Zurich) also found it odd.

Other then that, had a great weekend; report to follow!
Since you don't mention getting arrested, Uncle, I can only conclude you really have the patience of saints;)!
I hope you cut him short, because what he was doing WASN'T COOL AT ALL.

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That's a possible reaction, Glorious General, just don't use your own head:D!
What Do You Do In Tekumel? See examples!
"Life is not fair. If the campaign setting is somewhat like life then the setting also is sometimes not fair." - Bren

Baron

I have another question for Lord Chirine or the Glorious General. I have a new player who wants to be a tomb-robbing thief with acrobatic skills. He wanted his character to have trained a small semi-intelligent animal, something like a counterpart to a monkey, that helps him in his work. Something that would fit into an Aladdin / Thief of Baghdad vibe. What would be a good Tekumel counterpart to a little dexterous trainable monkey?

Baron

I was thinking possibly a Kuruku, if they could be trained properly?

Gronan of Simmerya

Good choice, but I'd make the training happen in-game.  It's funnier that way.
You should go to GaryCon.  Period.

The rules can\'t cure stupid, and the rules can\'t cure asshole.

chirine ba kal

Quote from: Shemek hiTankolel;946652Thanks once again Chirine!
This is very good, and will come in handy. She sure put in a tonne of work on this database. Found another Vriddi lineage after just a quick scan.

Shemek.

Alva is a he. No problem; he's just happy to see somebody using the data! :)

chirine ba kal

Quote from: Hrugga;946659Uncle,

I can not wait for your report. From what I understand many of the Tekumel game scenarios seem really interesting. As far as people go, I try to be true to myself. It matters not what they think of me. I listen and make no comments. So if a dead horse happens to be in my path, I let them lie. I do however like to carry a big stick. Which I rarely ever have to use...Be well!!!

H;0)

PS I have to agree with the Professor on his views of the subject.

It's a very, very solid track of games, with some very good people running them. Brett does a great job of putting it all together, and it's well worth coming here to experience. longer report coming; it's been raining here all day, and it's now stopped long enough for me to get the electronics out of the van. I are tired, I are... :)

I just have to walk away. Sad to watch, but I choose not to enable that kind of thing. :(

chirine ba kal

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Yep. I was not amused, and it took a while to get my BP back down.

chirine ba kal

Quote from: AsenRG;946705Since you don't mention getting arrested, Uncle, I can only conclude you really have the patience of saints;)!
I hope you cut him short, because what he was doing WASN'T COOL AT ALL.

That's a possible reaction, Glorious General, just don't use your own head:D!

I heard about it after the fact from several people, who know I knew Phil pretty well, and wanted my take on the old codger's real attitude. I was very glad that I wasn't there; I have no tolerance for that kind of thing, and I would not have reacted very well at all.

Agreed.