For folks here who have the classic Traveller book from drivethru- how's the print quality on it?  Looks like it's a scan of the original books.  Sometimes those seem off when printed.

Quote from: David Johansen;940339I started with The Traveller Book but I think saying CT is cheating.  Is that with or without supplements games and so forth.  You could quite easily be using advanced character creation from Books 4-7 (8 is robots and they don't quite work that way) Snap Shot for man to man combat, Striker for vehicle combat, and High Guard for ship to ship combat and still be playing Classic Traveller.

This is a good point. In most of my posts on this thread I referred to "original Traveller (Books 1-3)." Because that's all I need to play Traveller. I find the later Books not particularly helpful. (I also use use Supplements 1, 2, and 4... but tend to stick to the careers found in Book 1. They give me the pulp adventure feel I'm looking for in a solid RPG game of adventure.)

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;940371You play Traveller as a wargame. Lots of players do to this day.

I find the need to own the definition of "roleplaying game" charming. But I still don't understand the need.

Quote from: RunningLaser;940395For folks here who have the classic Traveller book from drivethru- how's the print quality on it?  Looks like it's a scan of the original books.  Sometimes those seem off when printed.

I assume, but am not sure, that the PDFs on DriveThru are the same found on the CD-ROMs one can buy from Far Future Enterprises. (I assume it because why would they not be?) If so, I have found them to be good enough when printed. But that might not meet your needs.

Quote from: RunningLaser;940395For folks here who have the classic Traveller book from drivethru- how's the print quality on it?  Looks like it's a scan of the original books.  Sometimes those seem off when printed.

If you're talking about the POD version of The Traveller Book, it wasn't bad. Image quality of the art, and the paper and binding of the POD version wasn't as good as the original. I did a side-by-side photo comparison (a year ago?), and there were noticeable differences. But not bad overall.

Quote from: RunningLaser;940395For folks here who have the classic Traveller book from drivethru- how's the print quality on it?  Looks like it's a scan of the original books.  Sometimes those seem off when printed.

The illustrations are darker but otherwise fine.

Quote from: ChristopherKubasik;940416I assume, but am not sure, that the PDFs on DriveThru are the same found on the CD-ROMs one can buy from Far Future Enterprises. (I assume it because why would they not be?) If so, I have found them to be good enough when printed. But that might not meet your needs.

Buy the CD-ROMs from FFE because the pricing is way better for what you get.

Quote from: ChristopherKubasik;940248Ester,

In your summations about rules, players, and Referees there isn't anything I disagree with. For what that's worth.

I simply see a difference in the rules. (Which I think we agree on.)

I think those differences can matter. (If not, why different rules?)

But I'm also going to guess there's not much further to go here.

You pick one or the other. But as somebody else pointed out the format of a lot of things are same so you grab what useful out of the other editions and use it with the rules you like.

I should have added the link to the FFE CD-ROMs.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;940371You play Traveller as a wargame. Lots of players do to this day.

I never cease to be impressed by how you manage to be both a dick and a cunt at the same time.

Quote from: TrippyHippy;940305The game is played with 2D6, roll high based on six stats and skills. There is a bunch of little differences, but rather than focus on that I just use what is actually transferable - the most important thing being the stories that are written for it.

The fact that you can take two different games and mash them up, as I've noted repeatedly and you seem intent on ignoring, doesn't change the fact that they are different games. That iterations of Traveller share similar trappings - free traders, battledress, mercenaries, jump space, &c - and can be adapted to one another doesn't change the fact that what's under the hood isn't the same and makes a difference in how the game plays at the table.

Quote from: Black Vulmea;940429That iterations of Traveller share similar trappings ... and can be adapted to one another doesn't change the fact that what's under the hood isn't the same and makes a difference in how the game plays at the table.

In your opinion, is there a preferred choice if you are making your own milieu? I'm putting together my own, new, game as well and am not interested in the canon Third Empire.

Quote from: Black Vulmea;940424I never cease to be impressed by how you manage to be both a dick and a cunt at the same time.

Well, it means when you tell him to go fuck himself, he can easily do so.

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;940441Well, it means when you tell him to go fuck himself, he can easily do so.

Black Vulmea is just upset because he royally sucks at the hobby.

Quote from: estar;940421Buy the CD-ROMs from FFE because the pricing is way better for what you get.

Yes. They are a deal if you want complete sets of rules.

Quote from: K Peterson;940418If you're talking about the POD version of The Traveller Book, it wasn't bad. Image quality of the art, and the paper and binding of the POD version wasn't as good as the original. I did a side-by-side photo comparison (a year ago?), and there were noticeable differences. But not bad overall.

Quote from: estar;940420The illustrations are darker but otherwise fine.

Very cool, thanks.

Quote from: Baron Opal;940438In your opinion, is there a preferred choice if you are making your own milieu?

Any edition can be used as a toolkit with a little sandpaper and elbow grease, but Traveller has a strong implied setting which is part of its identity.

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;940444Black Vulmea is just upset because he royally sucks at the hobby.

I suck at roleplaying games and you are a dick-cunt.

The difference is, I can get better.

Quote from: RunningLaser;940395For folks here who have the classic Traveller book from drivethru- how's the print quality on it?  Looks like it's a scan of the original books.  Sometimes those seem off when printed.

Mine just came in and it looks really good. The only concern I have is that the covers are about a quarter inch wider than the interior paper and I wonder how that will affect cover wear over time.