Quote from: CRKrueger;938408I mean really, who here besides Gronan is still playing the first RPG they ever played?

I am - first played RQ and still play RQ.

Quote from: CRKrueger;938408Even for the people who are still playing some flavor of D&D, or Traveller, or RuneQuest, or TFT...that's not the first flavor of D&D, Traveller, RuneQuest or TFT you started with, I'm thinking (Gronan, Skarg and maybe two others excepted).  You added stuff, and some of that stuff came from other published versions of the House Systems of TSR, GDW, Chaosium or SJG, or some licensed or OGL version of same.  It was useful to you, even if you didn't take it whole cloth.

OK, you got me there, I started with RQ2 and now play a heavily modified RQ3ish.

However, I have no interest in learning GURPS, Savage Worlds or whatever new system comes around, just to take some better mechanics. I took some things from HeroQuest, Legend and Mythras, but probably wouldn't use them for my main campaign.

I still play a variety of ca. 1980 or before games, either as published or with the usual grab bag of house rules. RQ2 (often); 1E and BD&D; TFT; Behind Enemy Lines.

Quote from: rway218;937408I have three quick questions, that may help younger developers in the future:

What is the one thing you DONT want in a new Game System?

What keeps you from accepting a new game or system?

What would you LOVE to see from a newer designer?

Answer all or any...  go...

1.  I don't want $40+ source books, hardcover or not.  It's insane how costly many games are.

2.  I'm open to new games and certainly to new systems.  I actually prefer being exposed to many new systems, I read RPGs like fiction novels.  Sometimes, if they are cheap enough, I buy them just to read and with no intention of actually playing them.

3.  What I'd like to see in a new RPG is for it to have a classless, leveless system that has a nice mix of lore, exploration / discovery, and fast paced combat that is both detailed and cinematic.  I'd also like to see an RPG that is well suited to solo play and capable of having a full experience in a short scenario build.  

I believe I have found much of that with REH's Conan RPG, which I have play tested.

Quote from: CRKrueger;938408Yeah of course we're all massively jaded grumpy fucks who have no time and little interest for anything new...until something catches our interest...and then HOLY SHITBURGERS, we actually find the fucking time.  Whoda Thunk it?  

It's goddamn magic I tell you, and I didn't even need to learn Enochian.

How can this place be both the place of "Rulings not Rules", "Building your own" and "OSR4life" and also be the place that has no time for any variations on existing themes?

"Marginal Benefit versus Marginal Cost."  Something has to convince me it will be enough fun to bother with.  I was all over the new X-Wing miniatures game until I got to the "deck building" aspect.  I can't get enough of PENDRAGON, especially since the 5th edition reboot.  But the odds of being really interested in another pseudomedieval generic fantasy game is very small; I have already decided that I want a rules light game, so the odds of something being awesome enough to be worth putting down a game I know almost by heart is very small.

And my time is way to scarce for me to say "I'm going to plow through this 450 page book on the off chance I'll find an idea or three to enhance my game."

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I mean really, who here besides Gronan is still playing the first RPG they ever played?

(Raises hand.)

(Still playing the first miniatures game I ever played, too.)

Quote from: Charon's Little Helper;938440Besides the prettiness factor, if I see two RPGs, one of which has a bunch of awesome artwork while the other looks like it was drawn with colored pencils in high school art class, I'm going to assume that the former is probably better polished all around since they invested so much in the look, it's likely that they invested time in the system.

I'm somewhere in the middle. I find I'm often suspicious of 'a bunch of awesome artwork'. I feel like I see a number of games getting raves more because of their production values than their gameplay, and people getting really persnickety over small things that don't really matter at the table.
Now a game with really bad artwork, whatever I see that as, I might question the judgement that led to including it versus just leaving the pages clean and uncluttered. Classic Traveller still stands out IMO as a really nice looking set of books without all the glitz.
Sometimes though 'bad' art can be a lot more interesting than 'good' art.

Given that my first real RPG was basically gamebooks-inspired freeform, and I'm still playing freeform in a forum, I can also claim I'm playing my first RPG:). Of course, it requires me to buy no books.
Although I've found that non-fiction is almost mandatory for a decent freeform game;).

I'm still playing my first (real campaign) RPG experience, AD&D 2e. One could say I played 1e with my brother as a one-shot lark, but the whole procedural generated dungeon thingie fell flat in under an hour; part youth, part preference. In fact, the more systems I play the happier I am when I return to AD&D 2e. Still haven't finished savoring that dish yet.