Quote from: Shipyard Locked;932046Yeah, sure, a two-year-old thread that I just so happen to have started and that you pointlessly escalated into ugliness was absolutely the best example of this broadly-discussed principle that you could find on the internet.

It's an example with which I'm personally familiar and that I felt covered the topic pretty thoroughly, through different voices - was I supposed to go searching on other forums to find a 'neutral' (read: one that doesn't hurt ShipLock's oh-so-delicate fee-fees) example?

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;932046I'm sure that choice had absolutely nothing to do with my calling you a sexist asshole in another thread recently, no siree.

You've called me names in numerous posts, as have many others - I haven't lost even a millisecond of sleep over any of them, and if anyone takes anything I write about them seriously, they should invest in some industrial strength psychotherapy, because why in the name of all that's unholy would you allow an anonymous stranger on the intrewebs make you feel bad?

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;932046Face it, you're not the wise brahmin here. If you were, you would have dropped this whole thing several posts ago and gone on with your life.

At this point it's that weird staring-at-a-car-crash phenomenon watching you descend into complete delusion.

Quote from: Willie the Duck;932048Yet I'm pretty sure the first of them who can muster the willpower not to respond to the other one wins. :-)

Joke's on you  - y'all spectating are the losers in this inane sideshow.

Quote from: Black Vulmea;932050Joke's on you  - y'all spectating are the losers in this inane sideshow.

Hard to disagree that following the back and forth isn't a losing proposition--for all involved.

(But seriously--block button maybe?)

Quote from: Bren;931979I know the feeling. That's where I seem to be in this conversation.

And either that is a factor in combat in other settings or it is ignored for some reason in other settings. I honestly have no idea which is the case when you are playing.

Are you saying tactics aren't real in 4-color Supers or Star Wars when you play them? And if not, how not? Examples would be nice.

I'm not sure I know either.

All I know for sure is that I get less unhappy in Star Wars or superhero games than I do in D&D.

I know, that doesn't tell you shit.  Sorry.

Genre emulation perhaps? Han Solo is supposed to recklessly charge the group of stormtroopers down the hallway (and survive when they hit a dead end and turn and shoot at him) whereas a character in D&D would end up dead if they did something so suicidal?

Quote from: Black Vulmea;932050Joke's on you  - y'all spectating are the losers in this inane sideshow.

Indeed. Ignore is better than this.

Quote from: Willie the Duck;932133Genre emulation perhaps? Han Solo is supposed to recklessly charge the group of stormtroopers down the hallway (and survive when they hit a dead end and turn and shoot at him) whereas a character in D&D would end up dead if they did something so suicidal?

Heh. Now I'm imagining the Death Star as a killer GM's dungeon.

Quote from: Willie the Duck;932133Genre emulation perhaps? Han Solo is supposed to recklessly charge the group of stormtroopers down the hallway (and survive when they hit a dead end and turn and shoot at him) whereas a character in D&D would end up dead if they did something so suicidal?

IMO, that's a big part of the difference. What's cool and heroic in Three Musketeers will get you killed in Game of Thrones (there are exceptions. )

Quote from: Ratman_tf;932167Heh. Now I'm imagining the Death Star as a killer GM's dungeon.

Well, there are pits and nonsensically trapped rooms (including one with walls that come in to crush you). Disguising yourself and enemies. Swinging around on rope grapples. Prisoners' cells. The high-level paladin has to go turn a lever in some far off location before they can get back out. The paladin and the 1st level newb are there to rescue the prisoner, but the thief and his bugbear ally are in it for the gp. You can tell when the thief failed his bluffing at the prinsoner wing control console that he didn't just role a 1, he failed to roleplay out that bluff. I'm a little creeped out by the chemistry the farm boy and princess had, given that the Players that played them were siblings.

Quote from: Willie the Duck;932133Genre emulation perhaps? Han Solo is supposed to recklessly charge the group of stormtroopers down the hallway (and survive when they hit a dead end and turn and shoot at him) whereas a character in D&D would end up dead if they did something so suicidal?

Could be.  Could well be.

Quote from: Nexus;932185IMO, that's a big part of the difference. What's cool and heroic in Three Musketeers will get you killed in Game of Thrones (there are exceptions. )

Depends on whether you mean the movie or Dumas' book;).