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Huzzah! The OSR doesn't have cooties anymore!! Contessa cast Dispel Cooties on S&W!

Started by Spinachcat, October 04, 2016, 07:47:43 PM

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Wraith

#105
October 06, 2016, 03:44:24 PM
Quote from: Simlasa;923676I do wonder how the reaction, from all reactors, would have been different if they had not trumpeted the 'all female' aspect and instead just let it stand on its surface merits. Would it have funded as quickly? Would the complaints be as... complainy?
There you go... people only dislike it because a woman did it. :rolleyes:

Ratman_tf

#106
October 06, 2016, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;923673I think what they were trying to say was they hired the all female team to help reach more women,

So they think that all women are a hivemind that like the same things? How sexist!
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ThatChrisGuy

#107
October 06, 2016, 04:02:05 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;923658Apparently making a more feminine cover is bending backwards to terrorist demands. Or something.

What makes that a more feminine cover?  I'm genuinely curious, it doesn't strike me as "feminine" so much as "butt-ugly."
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Omega

#108
October 06, 2016, 04:15:23 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;923636Aren't the rules free in PDF form any way? Or I'm thinking of a different something&something retroclone...

Correct. Still with the WOTC 3e boilerplate.

Omega

#109
October 06, 2016, 04:20:18 PM Last Edit: October 06, 2016, 04:30:01 PM by Omega
Quote from: Necrozius;923648Pretty funny, though. They flat-out stated that this cover, or even the book as a whole, isn't meant to target traditional 40 somethings of the hobby. Judging by the responses by most 40 something traditionalist gamers, here and elsewhere, she was so fucking right.

They also pre-preemptively dismissed statements like "why women-only? What a gimmick!" LOL you guys are matching the stereotype perfectly.

1: So the OSR is about exclusionism now? (Actually they didnt say it was excluding 40something males. So you got that wrong too.)

2: Of course if they dismissed it. (Im not seeing where they did though?) Then they knew it was a gimmic and would need to discredit anyone who pointed it out. Marketing 101.

Omega

#110
October 06, 2016, 04:24:24 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;923658Apparently making a more feminine cover is bending backwards to terrorist demands. Or something.

When they make a more feminine cover... let me know. Because this one sure isnt.

Simlasa

#111
October 06, 2016, 04:29:51 PM Last Edit: October 06, 2016, 04:34:19 PM by Simlasa
Quote from: Omega;923690When they make a more feminine cover... let me know. Because this one sure isnt.
Or maybe it just goes to show that what us guys think is 'feminine' and what actual women think it is are two different things?
(I didn't see it as 'feminine' either)

Omega

#112
October 06, 2016, 04:49:49 PM
To be fair though. Its also possible that these women artists merely had what they thought was a cool idea. No agenda.

daniel_ream

#113
October 06, 2016, 04:56:36 PM
I'm sure they had no agenda whatsoever.

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Simlasa

#114
October 06, 2016, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: Omega;923696To be fair though. Its also possible that these women artists merely had what they thought was a cool idea. No agenda.
That's really my assumption... until proven otherwise.

TristramEvans

#115
October 06, 2016, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: Omega;923696To be fair though. Its also possible that these women artists merely had what they thought was a cool idea. No agenda.

The agenda was already stated. Its not an agenda I'm particularly opposed to, but it was very clearly put forth.

Mordred Pendragon

#116
October 06, 2016, 05:19:36 PM
I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill on this one.
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Shipyard Locked

#117
October 06, 2016, 05:20:16 PM Last Edit: October 06, 2016, 05:24:24 PM by Shipyard Locked
Quote from: daniel_ream;923697I'm sure they had no agenda whatsoever.
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Welp, if it stomps around like an identity politics ideologue and trumpets like an identity politics ideologue...

Quote from: Doc Sammy;923701I think we're making a mountain out of a molehill on this one.

Oh absolutely, but then again your "mountain" is just a thread on a minor forum.

For the record, I am not opposed to this product in the end analysis, and if it ever found its way into my collection through circumstance I certainly wouldn't turn it away. I do reserve the right to harmlessly roll my eyes at the behavior of the sort of leftists who drove me to the center though.

Simlasa

#118
October 06, 2016, 05:25:21 PM Last Edit: October 06, 2016, 05:35:08 PM by Simlasa
Quote from: TristramEvans;923699The agenda was already stated. Its not an agenda I'm particularly opposed to, but it was very clearly put forth.
As far as I can tell the 'agenda' was FGG's (an that was just to try to sell to a wider audience)... not Stacey's. AFAIK She just hired people she knew and liked working with.

Ratman_tf

#119
October 06, 2016, 05:32:18 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;923697I'm sure they had no agenda whatsoever.

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