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Entitled Incompetent Game Designers Demand You Be Forced To Pay Them More Money

Started by RPGPundit, May 09, 2016, 05:22:21 PM

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jcfiala

#435
July 28, 2016, 11:23:21 PM
Quote from: Gabriel2;910313No dog in this fight, but if I were to buy this book, I'd want the one with the Otus cover.  The updated one just doesn't look like anything to me.

I think the new cover would work well with something like Lamentations of the Flame Princess, myself.  But it's not what I look for in S&W.
 

Daztur

#436
July 29, 2016, 02:42:04 AM
Personally would GREATLY prefer if all PRGs were published as a 3.xed-style SRD as those are so much easier to search and navigate on a cell. Interior art is worse than useless for me. Did like the S&W and ACKS stuff that was distributed as an editable word processor document.

Bedrockbrendan

#437
July 29, 2016, 11:25:12 AM
Quote from: jcfiala;910350I think the new cover would work well with something like Lamentations of the Flame Princess, myself.  But it's not what I look for in S&W.

I just picked up S&W recently so I might not be as keyed into the aesthetic. Personally I really like the atmosphere and mood of the new cover. It is definitely different from the previous cover, so I can see how folks might find it jarring. But I got to admit I like this one much better. Some of it might have to do with when I started gaming. I began playing in 86, and this looks like a lot of the art I was absorbing and finding inspiration from by the late 80s and early 90s. So that is possibly a factor for me. The stuff that emulates the real early TSR art, doesn't really hit me in the same way.

Bren

#438
July 29, 2016, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;910436The stuff that emulates the real early TSR art, doesn't really hit me in the same way.
Brendan Im shocked...
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daniel_ream

#439
July 29, 2016, 12:55:31 PM
That Amazon pic is totally inappropriate.
D&D is becoming Self-Referential.  It is no longer Setting Referential, where it takes references outside of itself. It is becoming like Ouroboros in its self-gleaning for tropes, no longer attached, let alone needing outside context.
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Bren

#440
July 29, 2016, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;910461That Amazon pic is totally inappropriate.
Inappropriate?
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AaronBrown99

#441
July 29, 2016, 01:57:17 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;910461That Amazon pic is totally inappropriate.

I agree...that belt she's wearing would chafe!!

Lighten up, francis.
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daniel_ream

#442
July 29, 2016, 03:47:30 PM
Quote from: Bren;910464Inappropriate?

She still has both breasts.
D&D is becoming Self-Referential.  It is no longer Setting Referential, where it takes references outside of itself. It is becoming like Ouroboros in its self-gleaning for tropes, no longer attached, let alone needing outside context.
~ Opaopajr

Christopher Brady

#443
July 29, 2016, 03:51:17 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;910485She still has both breasts.

You've never fired a bow, have you? :D
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MachFront

#444
July 29, 2016, 06:01:20 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;910436I just picked up S&W recently so I might not be as keyed into the aesthetic. Personally I really like the atmosphere and mood of the new cover. It is definitely different from the previous cover, so I can see how folks might find it jarring. But I got to admit I like this one much better. Some of it might have to do with when I started gaming. I began playing in 86, and this looks like a lot of the art I was absorbing and finding inspiration from by the late 80s and early 90s. So that is possibly a factor for me. The stuff that emulates the real early TSR art, doesn't really hit me in the same way.

That's interesting to me since I started gaming in fall of '86 myself (I was 12 at the time). I don't have nostalgia for pre-'86 art, but I actually prefer something like Otus or Willingham to, say, Elmore and Easley (sp?) or later though I dig those as well. I suppose if I have 'nostalgia' for any art from rpgs it would be the various bits from things like Palladium Fantasy and Dragon magazines of the mid to late 80s (I love Pillsbury's stuff and wish he did more).

Bren

#445
July 29, 2016, 08:31:17 PM
Quote from: daniel_ream;910485She still has both breasts.
Ahhh...I totally missed what you were saying. And OUCH!


Kind of supports my view of the art though.
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Bedrockbrendan

#446
July 29, 2016, 08:39:17 PM
Quote from: MachFront;910504That's interesting to me since I started gaming in fall of '86 myself (I was 12 at the time). I don't have nostalgia for pre-'86 art, but I actually prefer something like Otus or Willingham to, say, Elmore and Easley (sp?) or later though I dig those as well. I suppose if I have 'nostalgia' for any art from rpgs it would be the various bits from things like Palladium Fantasy and Dragon magazines of the mid to late 80s (I love Pillsbury's stuff and wish he did more).

I am the inverse I think. I am fine with Otus and Willingham, but prefer the Elmore and Easley stuff (especially the stuff they were doing in the late 80s to the 90s).

The Butcher

#447
July 29, 2016, 08:39:40 PM
Could someone link or post the new S&W cover for those of us who need a new Facebook group like they need an extra set of nipples?

Brand55

#448
July 29, 2016, 08:50:18 PM Last Edit: July 29, 2016, 08:53:03 PM by Brand55
Quote from: The Butcher;910558Could someone link or post the new S&W cover for those of us who need a new Facebook group like they need an extra set of nipples?
Here you go:
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You can see a bigger picture, along with the old cover, at Tenkar's Tavern here: http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2016/07/new-swords-wizardry-complete-cover.html

Christopher Brady

#449
July 29, 2016, 09:10:56 PM
It's pretty, but it's also nonsensical.  So...  It's pretty nonsensical.

Joking aside, it doesn't say anything about what it's actually y'know, about.

Which to me, makes it less than useful in terms of whether or not I want to buy it.  It'll attract my eye, but other than that...
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]
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