Before anime became parlance, "Japanimation" was the common term in the west

We need a Tomb of Horrors anime...

Quote from: Lunamancer;887747That's exactly the fucking point of why I demand adventures of this kind.

...to be completely and utterly passive-aggressive?

Quote from: GnomeWorks;887981...to be completely and utterly passive-aggressive?

Passive aggressive in what way?

Quote from: TristramEvans;887919Before anime became parlance, "Japanimation" was the common term in the west

As a French speaker, "animé" means "animated", so I was confused by the use of the term back then (super redundant). On French tv, Japanese cartoons had been in big demand since the 70s (Haarlock, Goldorak, le Petit Castor, Sous le Signe des Mousquetteres, etc...).

Hearing English speakers correcting me on my pronounciation of animé was a little weird too (no, it sounds like "aaaah-nim-ey"). Ugh.

Quote from: Omega;888012Passive aggressive in what way?

I assume in a different way than swooping in out of nowhere and baselessly accusing someone of being passive aggressive.

Seeing as how Miyazaki formed Ghibli studios (named after the Italian word for Scirrocco, the "Desert Wind" that was going to blow through and reinvigorate the Anime industry), which became famous for being "anti-anime style" (no weird hair colors, wacky hair styles, non-stop frenetic action sequences and those stupid universal distorted emotion faces)...and did so more or less for the next 30 years...I'd say yeah, he kinda meant it.

If someone is trying to point to an anime movie and tell their friends, "no, this isn't Dragonball Z or Sailor Moon, it's really good", the majority of the time it's going to be one of the Ghibli movies - Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Graveyard of the Fireflies, Tales from Earthsea, The Wind Rises, Nausicaa, Princess Kaguya, etc...

When the guy who consistently puts out the highest grossing anime movies in Japan, and is probably the second-most awarded director in Japan after Kurosawa, whose films have been nominated for Academy Awards 5 times, says he started his own company to change the stagnant artistic aesthetic in Japanese Animation, and then almost single-handedly changes it over 30 years, it's kinda weird to say he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Edit: Is he the only one, no?  Are there a lot of other Japanese Animators out there doing things that have nothing to do with the "Ranma-Style Anime Stereotype"?  Of course there are.

But when someone is talking about not liking the "Anime Style", don't pretend you don't know exactly what they mean.

Theres a huge number of French-Japan collaboration anime. Like Ulysse 31. And others from Italy-Japan collaborations like Sherlock Hound.

Back on topic. (OF THE RIGHT THREAD!)

Are there any other modules with as skewed a rep or misinterpreted as Tomb of Horrors?

Quote from: Necrozius;888026As a French speaker, "animé" means "animated", so I was confused by the use of the term back then (super redundant). On French tv, Japanese cartoons had been in big demand since the 70s (Haarlock, Goldorak, le Petit Castor, Sous le Signe des Mousquetteres, etc...).

Hearing English speakers correcting me on my pronounciation of animé was a little weird too (no, it sounds like "aaaah-nim-ey"). Ugh.

i chalk it up the the way words pronunciations change as they get adopted in to other languages after all its like the old culinary word usage
for example

in English its commonly pronounced cul-inary with a short u and i sound
but the proper french is cUlinary with a long u sound or closer to that (iv only heard the french once)

Quote from: Lunamancer;888050I assume in a different way than swooping in out of nowhere and baselessly accusing someone of being passive aggressive.

"I'll let anybody play anything, unless you come in with something that I don't care for, then I'll find the most asinine way to kill your character and let my real players take all your shit!"

But yeah, my accusation was real baseless.

Jackass.

Quote from: Omega;888063Are there any other modules with as skewed a rep or misinterpreted as Tomb of Horrors?

I'll nominate the original I6 Ravenloft. It accrued a reputation for being this railroaded thing where Strahd's story was more important than the PCs' story. But in reality it's basically a big gothic sandbox except for an "Optional Ending" that's less than half a page long and jammed in with the appendices.

Quote from: Justin Alexander;888161I'll nominate the original I6 Ravenloft. It accrued a reputation for being this railroaded thing where Strahd's story was more important than the PCs' story. But in reality it's basically a big gothic sandbox except for an "Optional Ending" that's less than half a page long and jammed in with the appendices.

Which is all Strahd's story.  But then again, seeing as Strahd is pretty much Borovia...  Sorta kinda can't escape it, can you?

Quote from: Justin Alexander;888161I'll nominate the original I6 Ravenloft. It accrued a reputation for being this railroaded thing where Strahd's story was more important than the PCs' story. But in reality it's basically a big gothic sandbox except for an "Optional Ending" that's less than half a page long and jammed in with the appendices.

Probably the same morons who are claiming Keep on the Borderlands is a railroad.

Quote from: Omega;888200Probably the same morons who are claiming Keep on the Borderlands is a railroad.

...wait, what? How do you even make that claim?

That's pretty much the quintessential sandbox module. "Here's some caves. Do whatever."

Quote from: GnomeWorks;888160"I'll let anybody play anything, unless you come in with something that I don't care for, then I'll find the most asinine way to kill your character and let my real players take all your shit!"

But yeah, my accusation was real baseless.

Hmm. Considering I didn't say what you quoted, yes, your accusation is 100% baseless.